Why women leave tech, 6 years later

Why women leave tech, 6 years later

Talking to friends over the last few weeks, I found myself wondering why more women in leadership don’t share their experiences of misogyny, even once their careers are winding down. I'm concluding maybe it’s that we’re all too freaking tired.

A few years ago, right around the time we started Textio, I interviewed hundreds of women about why they’d left technology. I wrote about it here:

https://fortune.com/2014/10/02/women-leave-tech-culture/

At the time that I did this research, I had had several bad experiences, big and small. My manager had told a room full of (exclusively) male colleagues about my early pregnancy by inviting them to look at changes to my “upper body.” Five months later, another manager denied me a promotion because I was pregnant. Two years later, yet a third manager compared taking care of his dog while his wife was away to my everyday life as a single mom. 

But despite all this, I had never seriously considered leaving the technology industry. So hearing how the women with whom I spoke processed their experiences fascinated me. I felt both curiosity and empathy, but honestly, I also felt a bit puzzled.

In the 5.5 years since I published that piece, my perspective has changed a lot. I’ve gotten to know many more women who are very senior in their careers, often a decade or more beyond me, and all have battled through the bullshit to get where they are.

Last weekend I talked to a friend who is very accomplished, admired, and respected by many. She has a long career as an operator, a founder, and an investor. She dropped the bomb: she’s done. The bottom fell out of my stomach. I felt physically ill hearing her news.

But to be honest, I also felt relief for her.

Five and a half years ago I would have been surprised. Now I’m just sad, disappointed, and angry. And this part makes me maddest of all: I’m also totally understanding of her decision.

I’ve watched (and felt first-hand) the way that women are asked to apologize more; more often labeled as unprofessional, irrational, or abrasive; more often patronized; more often held hostage on the tightrope between “too emotional” and “too cold.” 

Any individual instance might make sense. Certainly, the women I know feel accountable for all of the above feedback when they receive it, and they often think the feedback is fair. 

But when you step back to see if there’s a pattern, there’s no question that there is one. And even if any given instance of this kind of feedback is fair for any given woman, that pattern represents a huge problem.

Earlier in my career, I assumed this effect diminished as women moved through their careers, as women built a track record of achievement and relationships behind them. I think I was wrong about that, and I wonder if women later in their careers agree.

If anything, looking at the experiences of women I know, I think the effect intensifies. I deeply believe that, on the whole, the expectations gap between men and women only widens as people move through their careers, especially on the EQ side. And as that gap widens, so does the gender gap in accumulated fatigue.

I think about this not only in terms of my own experience, which follows the pattern, but also in terms of every time I’ve ever expected a woman I work with to apologize, or silently judged her for her imperfection or her humanity.

If any of the women who have lived this ever do write the book Misogyny Tales Over a Decades-Long Career, I suspect a lot of (generally pretty decent) people would be surprised to recognize themselves within the pages.

To my friend, I will miss you. I am absolutely furious on your behalf. I hope you tell your story publicly. (This goes for a whole bunch of other women too, whether or not you are my friend, whether or not I even know you.)

But I am also happy for you that you are drawing a line about what you will and will not accept.

Chelsey Louise Glasson

Researcher, Writer, and Future Attorney

11 个月

?? It says something that ten years after your Fortune article here I am publishing a similar piece via the publication. Thanks for your impactful research and reflections regarding why women leave tech. https://fortune.com/2024/04/06/tech-industry-women-discrimination/

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Delicia Murugan

Founder of Delicia Rental Interiors

2 年

I was new to a company but experienced in the role for over 9 years at much bigger snd more mature companies . A new female boss with over 20 years of experience joined and within 3 months - told me that I was loud, aggressive and rubbed people the wrong way. That I didn’t come to the office ( I’m 100% remote but was there at least once a week). She was threatened by the new ideas and ways of working I had to share and encourage as part of my role.She plotted from then on out to get me out and within 6 months replaced me with a more subservient and “secretarial” person. It was super sad that it was a women of 20 years who got me out and then tried to apologize after the move she had planned for months. She was not my direct line manager. He provided no support or protection and just 3 weeks prior was talking to me about “career progression”. He dropped the bombard provided no feedback. I even asked if he could talk to me after all the legal/important termination steps were complete. He said he would and I never heard from him again. On a sales meeting I was supposed to attend the day after I got fired - he told everyone that I chose to leave.. many of my colleagues were shocked and disappointed. Now I’m done with the industry

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Stela Suils Cuesta

Founder @Diversalytics: make inclusive decisions with data ??| Helping people professionals transform DEI into Strategic Business Insights ?? | Unconscious Bias Expert ?? | Speaker & Facilitator ?? | PhD Dropout ??

3 年

Thanks for sharing, Kieran! I'm doing a PhD focusing on women leaving tech. We also have this problem in Portugal, where my research is based. I'm looking for papers in this subject, specially from the last 10 years and focusing on ICT/IT. If anyone comes across something, please send it on my way! We need to find what's causing this exodus and rebalance the industry. On a bright note, more and more tech companies are reaching out and asking for D&I interventions and awareness on unconscious bias, both on a general way and on the recruitment process, and it's coming from the employees. I'm excited to be working with companies on this and letting them know that the problem is not only recruiting, but advancement and retention.

Jerin Arifa

Award-Winning Marketing Communications | Social Justice | Community Organizing | Women's Rights

4 年

Thank you for your work on this important topic! I left the STEM field after conducting award-winning cancer research in high school. I exited for many of the reasons other women--especially women of color--leave STEM. What a disservice to our entire species to neglect and stifle the ingenuity that could come from half of our human race.

Gillian Marcelle, PhD

CEO and Founder, Resilience Capital Ventures LLC

4 年

Autobiographical techniques that chart workplace issues for women have a long history and work exceptionally well in generating rich data. We absolutely need to update “Computer Chips and Paper Clips” one of the most generative studies edited by Prof Heidi Hartmann in the 1980s. The tech world has been a disaster for women - misogyny, absence of pay parity, harassment and more - and we don’t have the data to examine. Anne-Rachel Inné Walda Roseman Joanne Sandler élysse Marcellin Sarita Ranchod Bunie M Matlanyane Sexwale Alison Gillwald

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