Why PayTo will fail.
Nikesh Lalchandani
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One of my early TV memories as a child, was watching a program called the Inventors on the ABC. It was a nicer version of the shark tank show, set way back in the 1970s. On this particular episode, someone came up with an idea of a stair-climbing trolley - used to lift heavy goods up flights of stairs. Invented in Australia (you won't find that in Wikipedia), instead of one wheel on each side, it had three, that rotated on a central shared axel. I remember thinking what a good idea it was, and I waited decades to see it climb up (figuratively). I was reminded the other day when I saw an older lady pulling a shopping cart onto a bus - with the same, three wheeled stair-climbing apparatus. That good idea took a long time, I thought.
PayTo is Australia's account-to-account payment solution for merchants. Account-to-account payments is a good idea too. It is based on PayID, aka Osko, aka New Payments Platform (NPP). PayTo is designed to allow you to use a mobile device or computer to pay for goods in a store or online, by transferring money directly from your account to the recipient. You can also pull money from an account. In many countries, similar concepts have been implemented as QR code payments, where you scan the merchant QR to get their account identifier, and send the money. It overcomes the problem of PCI compliance, where giving away our card number, expiry and cvv was like providing open access to your account. It is low cost, and allows us to move away from cards, and simplify the payments world. It will allow innovation through banks, merchants and fintechs to improve experiences. From a regulatory point of view
Yes, PayTo is a good idea. But don't expect the world to change when it is available. Here is why.
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1. PayTo is Take Two
When NPP (aka Osko aka PayID) was first implemented it was known at the outset that real-time payments was a critical capability for efficient commerce
Years after the original schedule, NPP was delivered. All our dreams came crashing down. A common experience of early adopters
Indeed Carsales.com.au was the first non-financial adopter of NPP as reported in the AFR. What wasn't widely reported was their offering, PayProtect became associated with alleged scams and was quietly withdrawn. They now recommend cash. They probably won't be in a rush to implement PayTo.
There were lots of other problems with NPP 1.0. It was infrastructure as mentioned earlier, so the commercialisation
PayTo is an extension of NPP. Their fan club, their early adopters have moved on. Few will be rushing to give it a second go.
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2. PayTo is not Designed for Merchants
"Build it and they will come" may be true, but be prepared to wait a long, long, time. PayTo is a technical capability. It is very sophisticated. It took me a while to fully understand it, and I am an expert. It is potentially as complex to understand as tokenisation in the cards space. If you don't understand or use tokenisation, then that's a good indicator that PayTo may be out of comprehension for most people. You authorise a merchant to use your PayId - that allows them to direct debit you - but it's a lot more sophisticated than direct debit: you can stop an arrangement, you can move your account, you can be notified, you can see all your arrangements. Consumers will struggle to figure out how it works. Does it add value for the merchant?
Card based payments have been around for a long time. For the mass-market, as long as the stair-climbing trolley. Most of us were born with them. Systems have evolved withT them. A merchant, sees the approved message from the terminal and knows that tonight the till will reconcile with the pinpad. They know that they will get the money for that reconciled amount. PayTo has no standardised merchant settlement mechanism. That has been left to implementers. Will the merchant know in real time they have been paid? Will it reconcile? How do disputes work? All of this has revolved to work for cards over decades. Many small merchants just reconcile once for all of their cards. Also what is the advantage in PayTo for a merchant? Interchange on debit cards is so low, and will continue to be driven lower by the regulators, thanks to the central bank, eftpos in Australia and scheme cooperation. One could argue that the small level it is at today is a small price to pay to avoid losses and issues associated with cash. If someone has money in their account, they can pay through a Visa or Mastercard debit card or eftpos. One mid-sized merchant I visited refused to take anything but cash, and kept an ATM in their shop, making an extra clip of the $2 fee charged on each withdrawal.
PayTo will make it easy to view and cancel direct debit arrangements at your bank. But is that what many direct debit merchants want? Think Gym memberships.
Basically the added advantage of PayTo as it is, offers nothing but inconvenience to merchants. Credit Cards and Buy Now Pay Later were successful at their inception because they gave customers of merchants more money than they had, and increased sales: fact. You may argue that PayTo could evolve to be something great one day, offer credit, and be fully integrated in a one-merchant-acquiring solution. I say don't hold your breath. It could happen. Just don't hold your breath.
3. PayTo is Already Outdated
At inception PayID (NPP, Osko etc) was way ahead of its time. A world first account-to-account real-time, multi-addressable, domestic transfer system.
Despite the best designs, be skepical at anyone who claims to future proof anything.
The world has moved on. First at its heart, NPP suffers the same design flaw plastic cards did. Back in 1960 plastic cards were cardboard and metal. They had an account number (Primary Account Number or PAN). That PAN has become the bane (or lifeblood, depending on which way you look at it) of information security. It is the reason you don't give you credit card details out, it has added $100 billions of compliance costs to organisations worldwide. The problem. As part of a transaction you are sharing something that is secret. In 1960 it made sense. Today it doesn't. NPP and PayID requires that you share your email, account number or mobile with the payer. This is a fundamental building block of PayTo.
The other thing that happened is the payments world is global. A tautology, one would think, but worth mentioning. PayTo is a domestic initiative, and not only have we implemented a solution that is different to proven solutions elsewhere like India, Thailand, Indonesia etc, we have a new solution that is trying to compete with well established international solutions like card payments, PayPal, AliPay etc. Meanwhile, elsewhere in the galaxy, international regulators are trying to solve a cross-border payment problem that Australia (and many other countries) have, till now, largely ignored.
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So who can really say what the future holds? Account-to-account payments will take off, but probably not through the current itteration of PayTo. A fintech may package it up and make it work. Largely many of us have used the real-time world and trust to solve the problem anyway, through for example sharing screen-shots of our Internet banking or mobile payments. Eventually, done right, account-to-account payments provides the most accessible, low-cost, integrated and inclusive solution to universal payments, but how we get there, is another story.
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2 年Nikesh, thanks for sharing!
IT Solutions Architect at FIS
2 年Hi Nikesh, thanks for the post. Whilst I agree that some of the NPP and PayTo use cases were oversold, I disagree with the conclusion. In my view the major use cases are efficient, real-time credit transfer between Australian banks and centrally held mandates for domestic direct debits. These offer significant benefits for merchants and even more for consumers. More importantly though they give Australia a streamlined payment infrastructure that gives the country independent of multinational players at least to a degree. I agree that PayID and the face to face merchant proposition is limited at this stage and will be limited for probably quite some time. But quickly moving money between most Australian bank accounts and finally having transparent control over mandates is a welcoming step forward.
Senior Corporate Counsel
2 年How is PayTo different from what PayPal is already offering?
Fintech CTO / Enterprise Architect with Baseline Security Clearance
2 年Nikesh Lalchandani great insights and I'm with you on being a bit bearish on the NPP's ability to work with and for innovators. I don't believe that the tech is the barrier, but more the terms of engagement with smaller partners that want to build upon the payment rails is the real challenge. I hope the powers to be can address their framework to be a true infrastructure player and enable smaller and more nimble companies to bring their innovation to the fore. While it did not happen with Osko, I'd hope this aspect can be addressed to support startups (not just the big players: Osko, banks, etc..). If they opened this aspect up, I'm sure in a year or two NPP will be ubiquitous with all the fintech innovators, as they use it day in day out to build beautiful products and services upon; While I'm optimistic, I'd be unwise to hold my breath for it to happen unfortunately ;-(
Principal at Kearney | Corporate Strategy | Growth | Customer Value & Loyalty | Product & Service Design | New Business Build
2 年Great article, thanks Nikesh. Some excellent points in here. Will PayTo fail for similar reasons to the aborted Bankcard? Domestic-only payment systems were problematic even back in the 1980s. As Mark Twain liked to say: 'History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."