When East Meets West: Alexander and the Gymnosophists
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When East Meets West: Alexander and the Gymnosophists

Alexander the Great's campaign in India was not just a military conquest, but also a profound spiritual quest. The Battle of the Hydaspes (Jhelum River), a pivotal moment in this campaign, was more than a test of his strategic brilliance. It was a significant event that deeply influenced his spiritual journey, compelling him to recognize and honor valor, even in his adversaries like King Porus.

Setting the Stage: Alexander's Campaign in India

After the battle, Alexander approached the defeated King Porus, asking how he wished to be treated. Porus's famous reply was, "Like a King." Admiring his spirit, Alexander reinstated Porus as his territory's ruler and even granted him additional lands. This act of respect and magnanimity showcased the depth of Alexander's character, his ability to recognize and honor valor, even in his adversaries.

After the battle, Alexander approached the defeated King Porus, asking how he wished to be treated. Porus's famous reply was, "Like a King." Admiring his spirit, Alexander reinstated Porus as his territory's ruler and even granted him additional lands. This act of respect and magnanimity showcased the depth of Alexander's character, his ability to recognize and honor valor, even in his adversaries.

It is worth noting that before the Battle of the Hydaspes, Alexander visited Taxila, a significant center of learning and culture. Here, he sought the counsel of the local oracle, who was renowned for their wisdom and prophetic abilities. The oracle predicted that Alexander's campaign in India would be challenging and that he would face significant resistance from the local kingdoms. This prophecy came true during the Battle of the Hydaspes, where Alexander faced one of his most formidable opponents, King Porus.

After this significant military victory, Alexander's interactions with the Gymnosophists, or naked philosophers, gave him a deeper understanding of Indian philosophy and asceticism. These ascetics were known for their wisdom and ascetic lifestyle, and their interactions with Alexander left a lasting impression on him and his men. The Gymnosophists, who were likely Jain or Ajivika monks, practiced severe forms of self-discipline and meditation, and their philosophical beliefs, emphasizing non-violence, non-attachment, and spiritual purity, were in stark contrast with the Greek emphasis on material success and power.

During his campaign, Alexander's chroniclers noted the presence of naked ascetics, likely Jain or Ajivika monks. These ascetics practiced severe forms of self-denial, and people respected them for their wisdom and spiritual discipline. Their way of life and philosophical outlook left a lasting impression on Alexander and his men. The naked ascetics' rejection of material possessions and their focus on inner peace and enlightenment starkly contrasted with the Greek emphasis on material success and power.

Meeting with Dandamis - A Lesson in Detachment

Alexander sent Onesicritus, one of his philosophers, to meet with several Gymnosophists. Onesicritus reported about their practices and beliefs, including extreme forms of self-discipline and meditation. These reports fascinated Alexander.

One of the earliest and most notable encounters was with Dandamis, the leader of a group of ascetics in Taxila. When Alexander learned about the Gymnosophists, he sent Onesicritus to bring Dandamis to him. Onesicritus conveyed Alexander's message, offering gold and rewards and threatening beheading if Dandamis refused.

Dandamis refused, lying on his bed of leaves, stating, "I am also a son of Zeus, and I need nothing that is yours." He added, "God the Great King is not a source of violence but a provider of water, food, light, and life. Your King cannot be a God who loves violence and who is mortal. Even if you take away my head, you cannot take away my soul, which will depart to my God and leave this body as we throw away old garments. We, Brahmans, do not love gold nor fear death. So your King has nothing to offer, which I may need. Therefore, tell your King: Dandamis will not come to you. If he needs Dandamis, he must come to me."

Dandamis refused, lying on his bed of leaves, stating, "I am also a son of Zeus, and I need nothing that is yours." He added, "God the Great King is not a source of violence but a provider of water, food, light, and life. Your King cannot be a God who loves violence and who is mortal. Even if you take away my head, you cannot take away my soul, which will depart to my God and leave this body as we throw away old garments.

This encounter with Dandamis emphasized the Gymnosophists' profound detachment from material possessions, a testament to their unwavering commitment to spiritual pursuits.

When Alexander visited him in the forest, Dandamis questioned why Alexander sought him out, pointing out the futility of seeking pleasure and wealth. Alexander expressed his desire to seek counsel from Dandamis, leading to a profound philosophical exchange.

Testing Wisdom - The Ten Gymnosophists

According to Plutarch, Alexander's most famous encounter was with ten Gymnosophists by the banks of the Indus River. Intrigued by their ascetic lifestyle and philosophical wisdom, Alexander engaged in a profound intellectual exchange, posing challenging questions to them. He even threatened to execute those who answered incorrectly. However, the Gymnosophists responded with such cleverness and wit that Alexander was impressed and spared their lives.

Here are some of the questions and their responses, which not only showcased the intellectual prowess of the Gymnosophists but also the depth of their philosophical thought:

Here are some of the questions Alexander asked and the responses he received:

  • Which is more numerous, the living or the dead?

"The living, for the dead, no longer exist."

  • Does the earth or the sea produce larger animals?

"The earth, since the sea is only a part of the earth."

  • Which is the cunningest of all animals?

That which man has not yet discovered.

  • Which existed first, the day or the night?

"The day, by one day." (When Alexander was surprised, the philosopher added, "Unusual questions have unusual answers.")

  • How can a man make himself most beloved?

"By being the most powerful yet not feared."

  • How can a man become a God?

"By doing what is impossible for a man."

  • Which is stronger, life or death?

"Life, for it endures so many evils."

  • How long is it good for a man to live?

"As long as he does not fear death."

  • Why did you induce King Sabbas to revolt?

"Because I wished him to live as a noble or die nobly."

  • What is the best way for a man to prepare for death?

"To live a life of virtue and wisdom."

The Gymnosophists' responses to Alexander's questions not only showcased their intellectual prowess but also the depth of their philosophical thought. Their ability to engage in profound philosophical thought was evident in their clever and insightful responses.

Dialogue with Calanus - Prophecies and Philosophical Insights

Another significant figure was Calanus, a pupil of Dandanis. He initially refused to meet Alexander unless he stripped off his clothes and listened to him naked, symbolizing the rejection of material possessions.

Calanus impressed Alexander with his philosophical insights. When Alexander finally persuaded Calanus to accompany him to Persia, he maintained his ascetic lifestyle while continuing to teach Alexander and his men about Indian philosophy and asceticism. When Alexander offered him rich gifts, Calanus refused, saying, "Man's desire cannot be satisfied by such gifts." He explained, "What shall I be worth to you, Alexander, for exhibiting to the Greeks if I do what I do not wish to do arising out of compulsion?"

Alexander offered him rich gifts, Calanus refused, saying, "Man's desire cannot be satisfied by such gifts." He explained, "What shall I be worth to you, Alexander, for exhibiting to the Greeks if I do what I do not wish to do arising out of compulsion?"

After falling ill, Calanus decided to end his life through self-immolation, a practice that was shocking to the Greeks. He built a pyre and calmly walked into the flames, demonstrating his control over his body and belief in life's impermanence. This act left a profound impression on Alexander and his soldiers, highlighting the stark differences between Greek and Indian views on life and death.

On the day of his self-immolation, Calanus bid farewell to his Greek students but not to Alexander, stating, "We shall meet again in Babylon," a prophecy that came true as Alexander died in Babylon in 323 BCE, exactly a year later. This statement was a poignant reminder of life's transient nature and death's inevitability.

On the day of his self-immolation, Calanus bid farewell to his Greek students but not to Alexander, stating, "We shall meet again in Babylon," a prophecy that came true as Alexander died in Babylon in 323 BCE, exactly a year later. This statement was a poignant reminder of life's transient nature and death's inevitability.

The Fusion of Greek and Indian Thought

The Hellenistic period, marked by the spread of Greek culture and ideas across the Eastern Mediterranean and Near East, was significantly shaped by Alexander's conquests. Alexander the Great's encounters with the Gymnosophists were pivotal moments of East meeting West. These interactions influenced Alexander's perspective and contributed to the development of Hellenistic philosophy.

The Gymnosophists' influence on Alexander contributed to this cultural exchange, and their philosophical insights were integrated into the broader Hellenistic thought.

  • Stoicism and Asceticism: The Gymnosophists' emphasis on self-control, asceticism, and detachment from material desires resonated with Stoic principles. Stoicism, one of the dominant schools of Hellenistic philosophy, also valued inner peace and virtue over external wealth and power.
  • Skepticism and Inquiry: The Gymnosophists' practice of questioning and their concise, thought-provoking answers influenced the development of Skepticism. This school of thought emphasized the importance of inquiry and the recognition of the limits of human knowledge.
  • Cultural Syncretism: Blending Greek and Indian philosophical traditions during Alexander's time led to a rich cultural syncretism. This fusion of ideas contributed to the diversity and richness of Hellenistic philosophy, which continued to evolve and influence subsequent generations.

Reflecting on the Odyssey: Bridging Cultures and Pursuing Knowledge

Alexander’s father, Philip II of Macedonia, hired Aristotle to educate the 13-year-old prince. Little is known about Alexander’s three-year tutelage, but Aristotle’s wisdom likely had a lasting impact.

Legend has it that young Alexander sought out Diogenes the Cynic, who lived in a clay jar. When Alexander asked if he could do anything for him, Diogenes replied, “Yes, stand aside; you’re blocking my sun.” Alexander admired Diogenes’ indifference to wealth, saying, “If I were not Alexander, I would like to be Diogenes.”

Years later, in India, the exchange of ideas between Greek and Gymnosophists broadened Alexander's horizons and bridged the gap between East and West, fostering a deeper appreciation for the diverse tapestry of human thought.

Alexander's interactions with Eastern philosophers, such as the gymnosophists in India, broadened his horizons and bridged the gap between East and West. This exchange of ideas fostered a deeper appreciation for the diverse tapestry of human thought and influenced his perspective on life and leadership

As Alexander the Great lay on his deathbed, he made three final wishes to his generals:

  • Only the best doctors should carry his coffin to show that even the best doctors are powerless against death.
  • Scatter his wealth along the path to his grave to demonstrate that material wealth acquired on Earth stays on Earth.
  • Leave his hands hanging out of the coffin so that people could see we come into this world empty-handed and leave it the same way

These wishes reflect a profound understanding of life's transient nature and the futility of material wealth, echoing the teachings of Eastern philosophies he encountered during his conquests.

In today's globalized society, these lessons continue to resonate. By fostering mutual respect and understanding, we can build bridges between cultures, just as Alexander and the Eastern philosophers did centuries ago.

In today's globalized society, the lessons from this encounter continue to resonate. We can build bridges between cultures, just as Alexander and the Gymnosophists did centuries ago. Let us carry forward their legacy of enlightenment, seeking wisdom in the harmonious balance of our own dualities.

As Calanus once said to Alexander, "We shall meet again in Babylon." This poignant reminder of life's transient nature and the enduring quest for knowledge continues to inspire us to seek wisdom and understanding across all boundaries.

Priti Sinha

Head of Model Risk and Governance, World Bank Group (IBRD and IDA)

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Really good read Arup da.

Letícia Oliveira

Global Impact Strategist and Consultant Political Scientist Specialized in Impact

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Thanks for sharing

Kolli Rao

President and Senior Advisor at Aon India

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Awesome and absorbing read, Arup. You have been crafting masterpieces ??

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