What Does It Mean To Be a Human-First Leader?
Paul Wolfe

What Does It Mean To Be a Human-First Leader?

“If you do everything with empathy as an HR leader, you're going to burn out, and you're going to be like, ‘I need to tap out because I can't do this anymore.’ Even if you're taking care of yourself,” Paul says.

What does it mean to be a human-first leader?

In this episode of Redefining Work, I’m joined by HR expert and human-first leadership advocate Paul Wolfe. We discuss his career, his new book, “Human Beings First,” burnout, advice for aspiring HR leaders, and much more.

Paul has been in HR for more than 20 years, including several years as senior vice president of global HR at Indeed, where he helped grow the company from 1,000 employees to 12,000. He’s also held executive positions at companies including AppNexus, Conde Nast, IAC, and Orbitz Worldwide.

Most recently, Paul wrote the book “Human Beings First,” which aims to help leaders understand that they don’t need to be perfect, especially in front of their teams.

Leaders Are Human, Too

Human-first leadership is based on the universal truth that we’re all human beings, and we all face challenges.

“I think leaders that are more vulnerable and make sure that people are seen and heard and can see themselves in a leader, create a more encouraging environment. More loyal employees, more productive employees — a better kind of work unit,” Paul says.

Early in his career while working for GE Capital, Paul took part in a rotational program that included four leadership classes at General Electric’s famous Crotonville leadership institute. After writing his book, however, Paul reflected differently on that experience. “Basically, they taught us to be an imposter. They taught us to never let them see you sweat. Always have an answer,” Paul says. “It wasn't really about collaboration and team building.”

Paul doesn’t think leaders need to try to be perfect all the time. Becoming a well-rounded leader is instead about being willing to show your humanity.?

"At the end of the day, we're all humans, and we all have our own challenges and our own highs and lows in our life,” Paul says. “And just because we work someplace and we have a fancy title doesn't mean that stuff goes away. We have to deal with it just like anybody else does.”

HR’s Risk of Burnout

HR has gained strategic importance since the pandemic, but with that added importance came a tremendous burden. People expect HR to lead with empathy and compassion during challenging times, but HR leaders also need to look after themselves.?

“If you do everything with empathy as an HR leader, you're going to burn out, and you're going to be like, ‘I need to tap out because I can't do this anymore.’ Even if you're taking care of yourself,” Paul says.

Avoiding burnout isn’t commonly part of HR training or development. Paul agrees that this should change, especially because self-care comes in many forms and will look different for each HR leader. “And I think the leaders and the companies that are going to do best by their employees are those that allow them to do what they need to do to live a good life while they're being a good employee,” he says.

Two-Way Communication With Employees

You only know what’s going on with employees when you ask them. Paul urges HR professionals at all levels to establish two-way communication with the workforce.?

To effectively lead as an HR professional, engagement surveys aren’t enough. The needs of the workforce are constantly changing. You need to listen regularly to what employees are experiencing. At Indeed, Paul traveled to offices and gathered 10 to 15 people for employee focus groups.

The rules were simple: “What’s said in here stays in here unless you tell me something illegal,” Paul says. These frank, private conversations allowed Paul to take the pulse of the organization while helping employees feel comfortable with HR.?

“Sometimes there is this ‘us and them’ mentality and it's like, [employees] are your best source of information,” Paul says. “And if you build that relationship with them and they know they can come to you with stuff, it’s the holy grail from a chief people officer perspective.”

There are many ways to build two-way communication with your workforce. The important thing is to get started. “Every program doesn't have to be wrapped up in a beautiful box and a bow to push it out,” Paul says. “Use an MVP approach, a product approach, and beta it and get feedback.”

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I just finished listening to this episode! I especially connected with the first part of the conversation - "Tomorrow is never guaranteed." Having recently lost my father unexpectedly, this hits close to home for me. I had taken for granted that he would be with us for a long time. If you have the opportunity to spend time with your family members or other loved ones, never put it off for later. Thank you for this conversation Lars Schmidt & Paul Wolfe.

Alan Wilson

Head of People | Career Coach

1 年

It's so simple yet among the plethora of models, frameworks and technology that is ever-increasingly rammed into the workplace, we've forgotten one thing. We are human-beings not human doers. The workplace could be a powerful space of transformation for humanity if we can bring in the compassionately leadership so desperately missing from most organisations.

Brandi K.

Passionate HR professional driving organizational success through talent management and culture Building.

1 年

This is an awesome read. I don’t know how to turn off my empathy switch!

Jannah Bachrouche

????? ???? ?? Founder/CEO of HERC HR Inc. | Fractional Executive | People Enthusiast | Human Puzzle Builder | Empathy Evoker

1 年

Thank you for sharing! I think these are all super valid points. I also think that we as HR professionals are the organizational therapists. As the saying goes, “therapists also need therapists.” Speaking for myself, of course, I know I have found tremendous value in doing regular therapy for myself. This helps me move through those really tough moments we all experience in our industry and learn to center/show up for myself. So much of the burnout experience is because we don’t always have the tools to know how to show up for ourselves (this can mean SO many things). Therapy allows me to show up even better for my organization and those around me.

Pradnya Patil

Gofloaters Flexi Work Visionary Jury 2024 | Remote Work Leadership Expert - Belonging, Connectivity & High Performance | Speaker | Best Selling Author | Seasoned Technology Leader | International Yoga Faculty

1 年

I believe that when leaders show some of their vulnerable side, the team also feels safe to do the same which in turn creates an opportunity to come up with win-win solutions. As they say- "It is the mark of great artistry to know where to stop.", same applies to empathy. Its an art and wisdom to know how much empathy to exercise in which situation. I admire the level of vulnerability both of you demonstrated. You are leading by example when it comes to "Humanistic approach to leadership" Lars Schmidt.

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