We Need to Talk About NotebookLM
Daniel Nestle
AI for Communications & PR | Reimagining Content | Propel 100 2025 | PRWeek Dashboard25 2023 & 2024 | Host of The Trending Communicator Podcast | Japanese Speaker | Co-Author, The Most Amazing Marketing Book Ever
Is it the missing link in your AI game?
[Originally published on the Communications Trends from Trending Communicators Substack. Subscribe here.]
At the end of 2024, when Thought Leaders and Insightful Brands flooded our LinkedIn feeds with 2025 predictions, 2024 Best-Ofs, 2024 Worst-Ofs, and AI-generated LinkedIn Rewinds (which were brilliant, IMO), I was a keystroke away from joining in. I had a draft all ready to roll, and couldn’t wait to regale you, dear Readers, with insights from the first year of The Trending Communicator.
But I stayed my hand. Not because the insights and predictions were stale or dull (although I admit to some snooze-worthy ideas), but because I heard a little voice in my head—let’s call it my inner Mark Schaefer —telling me to be bold. Crazy. Audacious.
I won’t claim that what I ended up doing was any of those things, but it was different. Possibly unique (fact-check me on that, please). In case you missed it, I orchestrated an AI takeover of The Trending Communicator for one episode, wherein the AI hosts discussed some trends shaping the communications profession.
In their 15-minute repartee, they covered:
Kudos to them. But before I sing any more praises for my AI pod-jackers, let’s remember that the reason they did such a good job is that their source content is 20-something hours of human, long-form, unscripted, original conversations with communications and marketing leaders. In other words, they were good because their human input was good.
But even when the original content is stellar, it takes a combination of AI tools and models to make any derivative or repurposed content work. That’s why we have to talk about 谷歌 NotebookLM, the star of the show and the core of my content engine.
A NotebookLM Primer
If you don’t know anything about NotebookLM or know about it but aren’t familiar with it, think of it this way: NotebookLM is a generative AI tool that allows you to create personalized, customizable, private chatbots that use only the sources you provide. It’s available to anyone with a personal Google account. If you pay for Gemini Advanced or are on a Google Workspace Business Standard with a Gemini account, NotebookLM Plus is included if your Workspace administrator has deemed it so. Unless stated otherwise, everything I will share here is available in the free version. Here’s a basic overview of what you can do with it:
Now that you’ve got an idea of what you can do, you might be thinking, why? Why do I need NotebookLM? Why should I use it? I’ll give you seven reasons, all conveniently starting with R:
Researching: Create a Notebook on a topic you’re interested in or want to learn about or drop in sources you wish to analyze for a project (a book you want to write, for example). Then, dig into the sources with the chatbot to find out what you need to know.
Rethinking: Ever wonder if your past proclamations still make sense? Load up a Notebook with your older content and more recent sources that may or may not support your ideas. Ask the chatbot to help you review and evaluate your points of view and suggest where you might want to make some adjustments.
Rediscovering: Add as much of your original content as possible to a Notebook: podcasts, videos, blog posts, books, whatever you’ve got. Then go exploring. Ask the chatbot to create a briefing document about your content. Tell it to look for ideas you’ve had about topics or themes you want to explore. You’ll find insights from the past and maybe new interpretations you hadn’t considered.
Reviving: Like rediscovering, use your Notebook full of your older content to breathe new life into old words. Hunt through your older work and identify content that can be relevant again.
Remembering: Are you a prolific creator with a body of work so large you can’t possibly remember everything you’ve written or said? A corporate communicator who’s expected to recall what the CEO said in the 2015 annual report? Instead of combing through documents, create a Notebook and throw them all in. Then, ask the chatbot to find what you’re looking for and do your remembering for you.
Repurposing: Take your existing content and transform it into other formats or forms of media. Add your podcasts, white papers, books, technical reports, and/or video scripts into a Notebook and use the chatbot to extract insights and quotes for blog posts, social posts, and more. Combine this with researching, rethinking, rediscovering, refining, and remembering, and you’ll have a powerful content engine at your fingertips.
Reimagining: Or just straight-up imagining. You know those ideas you get in the shower, the ones that start with, “Wouldn’t it be great if”? Run to NotebookLM with your crazy idea and start a new Notebook. Load it with relevant content, get a little woo-woo, and let your mind connect new dots that haven’t appeared to you before. Experiment and play. Chat with the Notebook, ask outlandish or outrageous questions, and see how you start to think of the topic or content in new ways.
I can think of other reasons, and so can you, but I tapped out at seven Rs, so let’s take the win and move on.
Curiosity Unleashed or Gone Awry: A Totally Real Example
OK, I hear you, let me bring you back to ground level and make it all make sense. I wanted to write about NotebookLM because many of you have asked me how I did the NotebookLM takeover of my podcast. Now that you (hopefully) have grasped the basics of NotebookLM, at least in theory, I am more than happy to pull back the curtain and share my wares. Here’s how it all went down:
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The Idea: It started in the shower (of course) when I was struck by a wave of Reimagining. “Wouldn’t it be great if, instead of writing a 2024 roundup or 2025 predictions, I could have AI do it for me? But not writing…what if I could do it as an Audio Deep Dive...that I would then publish…as a PODCAST??”
The Execution: Once I knew I could make it work, I started my workflow with a visit to NotebookLM for some Researching, then went through my usual podcast publishing process with some minor adjustments.
Podcast Audio:
Episode Artwork:
Show Notes:
I decided long ago (well, last year) to use AI for my show notes, but I always write the first few paragraphs myself. This time, I went 100% all-in on AI and let the chips fall as they might.
Once all of these pieces were in place, I published the episode to all podcast platforms via Libsyn. Once published, Libsyn also exports the podcast to my Podpage podcast website. Podpage automatically posts to Facebook and Twitter/X.
LinkedIn Post and Audiogram:
Someday, I’ll get into video, but for now, I create audiograms to accompany my LinkedIn posts.
Give Me More of the New Stuff
I admit there’s a shiny-new-toy vibe to NotebookLM, and I do tend toward exuberance when I get to play with new toys. Anyone listening at my office door would have heard the occasional cackle, chortle, and giggle while I was bringing the AI podcast takeover concept to life. I wouldn’t blame you for questioning my idea of fun (and sanity). Still, the result is a solid example of what could happen when you let AI-savvy, technophilic, and creative storytellers follow their curiosity: fresh, reimagined, or revived content created quickly, efficiently, and cost-effectively and produced end-to-end by one person.
If you read through the play-by-play above, you might doubt my claims of speed and efficiency. Could my workflow have been more efficient? Without a doubt, and if I ever do this again, I’ll get it done in half the time or less. But even so, five minutes ago I’d have needed a writer, a graphic designer, and an A/V specialist (or two) just to create something like this. If this were a project for a client or an employer, I wouldn’t be playing around (ahem, Midjourney and Suno) as much and I would be more directed and focused in my prompting. I’d start with a clear brief, take inventory of my creative assets, map out my workflow, decide which AI tools and software would best fit the task, and knock this out in no time. And each time I do it, I’d find more efficiencies, refine templates and processes, and create quality content in less time.
Takeaways
Let me try to land this plane. Just in case I haven’t made it clear that I’m enamored with NotebookLM and can hardly contain myself, here are a few thoughts to close out this love letter:
Finally, I want to help you understand NotebookLM not only because it’s Just That Important, but because I am convinced that it will unlock creativity, accelerate innovation, improve the quality and depth of our content, and help us all stay relevant. Let me know what you think in the comments below. And if you want my help making NotebookLM work for you or your organization, let’s talk.
Notes
This post is almost 100% human-written content. Almost.
Are you using NotebookLM? Do you want to learn more? Drop a comment below or send me a direct message. And don't forget to subscribe to The Trending Communicator podcast for more insights on navigating this wild, AI-powered world.
Business Strategist Using Systems for Faster Success | Founder of the Collaborative & CEO Councils | Making Promos & Marketing Work for You | Evernote Expert & Tech Nerd
1 个月Thank you for this concise and insightful description of NotebookLM. It's got my mind buzzing with ideas, now that I understand it. I'm saving your info for reference, too. ??
Founder of Podify | Launching Video Podcasts for Speakers, Authors & Founders | Amplifying Purpose-Driven Voices, Building Unstoppable Brands | Ex-Tesla
1 个月Love how you've explained everything, Dan! Thanks for sharing!
Rise Above The Blah ?? AI-supported marketing for small biz ????? get my weekly emails for tools and tips ?? No overwhelm allowed
1 个月I admit I've become more of a fan since we last spoke - because I love how easy it is to use vs achieving something similar directly with a frontier model. But I still think it could flounder because it's not clear enough when to use over other AI tools - and as we know, when things flounder at Google they can disappear suddenly ?? For now it's getting far too much positive attention for it to disappear - but when the novelty of the podcast hosts wears off (which will happen)... That's when I'd be concerned. In the meantime, as well as being a useful tool for everything you outline here, it's a great morale booster - I gave it transcripts of The AI Argument podcast to work on some marketing materials, and hearing the hosts discuss the content with such glowing positivity was really motivating ??
Communications Director @ Boehringer | MBA | Strategic Storyteller | Experienced Leader | Driving Impact & Elevating Brands Through Thoughtful Digital & Traditional Communication
1 个月I loved the pod. Listened to it a few weeks back when I was taking down my Christmas tree. Truly, mind blowing ??. Thanks for sharing the details of how it all came together!
Director of Customer Research at Advance Local Media
1 个月Thanks for pulling this together and tagging me so I didn’t miss it, Daniel. I’m eager to unpack it this weekend after the work trip. I’ve used Notebook LM this weekend, and am talking with others about it, all thanks to your generous and insight-packed RISE webinar.