'Upset no matter what happens': Senate gun deal leaves voters on both sides unsatisfied, frustrated

By Candy Woodall and Rick Rouan

Pastor Michael Fox is pissed.

Actually, the 60-year-old Sanford, North Carolina, Presbyterian corrects himself: He's "very?pissed."

Fox is among the?Republican voters who feels betrayed by GOP senators for supporting?a bipartisan gun deal ?they say chips away at their constitutional right to bear arms.

North Carolina's two Republican senators are among a group of GOP lawmakers backing a gun reform deal in principle?for the first time in about 30 years — legislation that was prompted by two mass shootings last month in Buffalo, New York, and Uvalde, Texas.

This is a massive shift in a party that has always been a firewall against any attempts to restrict gun rights.

However, the 10 Republican senators supporting the deal say they can save lives without sacrificing Second Amendment rights. Most of them are either retiring or won't face voters until 2026.???

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Sens. Richard Burr of North Carolina, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, Roy Blunt of Missouri and Rob Portman of Ohio are not seeking reelection.

Utah Sen. Mitt Romney is up for reelection in 2024.

Sens. John Cornyn of Texas, Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina aren't on the ballot again until 2026.

In a joint message Sunday, ?they all said their plan "saves lives while also protecting the constitutional rights of law-abiding Americans."

So far the deal backed by a?bipartisan group of senators includes funding?mental health and school safety services, requiring?juvenile records in background checks on gun buyers 18 to 21, and making it harder for threatening people to have weapons.

Senators are also considering grants for states to implement "red flag" laws, which allow courts to remove firearms from those deemed a threat to themselves or others, and criminalizing third-party straw purchases.

Fox said he won't forget this in four years.

He said he "absolutely will not vote for" Tillis in 2026.

"We didn't vote for them to take away our rights," Fox said of his senators.

The Second Amendment right is important to Fox, a retired Army sergeant who served two tours in Afghanistan.

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"I saw war," he said. "A gun has saved my life."

Texas Sen. John Cornyn has been the Republican architect in the negotiations and said he believes the Senate deal protects constitutional gun rights.

Some Democrats and those who have lost loved ones in mass shootings say the proposed Senate deal doesn't go far enough.

Meanwhile, some Republican and independent voters in states where GOP senators are backing these measures have expressed concern and disapproval.

Karen Ripple, a 52-year-old Republican from Spanish Fork, Utah, doesn't agree with providing funding for mental health services in schools. "That's a private matter that parents should decide on for their child."

"Parts of this bill sound like they are on the right track, but any bill or law that takes away my full Second Amendment rights will not be tolerated by me or many of my fellow constituents," she said.

Romney said in a statement Sunday he was supporting the "commonsense, bipartisan proposal" because "families deserve to feel safe and secure in their communities."

In Texas, independent voter Lori Alford is open to some reform but is concerned about the gradual erosion of gun rights.

"Once they start whittling away at our Second Amendment rights," the 64-year-old Ingleside resident feared it wouldn't take long "until they are gone."

Cornyn, one of her senators, has been the Republican architect in the negotiations and said he believes the Senate deal protects constitutional gun rights.

He said Monday the enhanced background checks of juvenile court, police and mental health records would have disclosed "what everyone in the community knew" about the 18-year-old gunman in Uvalde, Texas, who killed 19 elementary school students and two teachers last month.

"The shooter was a ticking time bomb," Cornyn said.

The 18-year-old Buffalo shooter also had a juvenile record that would have prevented him from buying the firearm he used to kill 10 Black shoppers at Tops grocery store, senators said.

"The tragedies in Uvalde and elsewhere cried out for action," Cornyn said in a statement Monday. "I worked closely with my colleagues to protect our communities from violence while also protecting law-abiding Texans' right to bear arms."

Ginny Kerr, a 76-year-old Republican from Manteo, North Carolina, said there's a simpler solution because "we already have laws on the books."

"Why spend time writing another bill when all you have to do is enforce the laws that we have," she said.

Baina Perkins, a 53-year-old bartender in Troy, Ohio, who said she doesn’t identify with either political party, used to work in a gun store and believes more gun control is needed.

She is supportive of "red flag" laws, which allow?family and law enforcement to petition?courts to remove firearms from those deemed a threat to themselves or others, and believes the background check system is very flawed.

Perkins remembers buyers going to the gun store and having to wait three days for a background check. If the seller didn't get a response on the third day, they had to sell the buyer the gun. Sometimes on the fourth day the gun store would get a call?saying the gun shouldn't be sold to that buyer.

The Senate deal would leave it up to states to implement their own red flag laws, and lawmakers are still sorting out the language and length of background checks – a sticking point in negotiations.

Perkins is skeptical that anything will actually get done and have any teeth.

“I’ll be surprised if anything actually happens,” she said. “Obviously we can’t continue down this path.”

Karen Marvin, president of AimHi Family Firearms Center in New Albany, Ohio, said she doesn’t “envy people coming up with solutions” to mass shootings in America but was skeptical about some of the details in the bipartisan proposal.

She pointed out that straw purchases already are illegal, for example, and has questions about the types of “red flag” laws the legislation would incentivize. But Marvin said she supports universal background checks.

Marvin also is concerned about how the shifting regulatory framework aligns at both the state and federal level. While Congress is poised to adopt new gun regulations, Ohio is making it easier for gun owners by eliminating permits to carry concealed firearms among other changes.

Gun buyers often are already confused about how the variety of laws across the country apply to them, Marvin said, sometimes asking whether laws in other states apply to Ohio.

“I feel like there will probably be people on both sides who are upset no matter what happens,” she said from behind the counter at her gun shop. “It won’t be enough for one side, and it will be too much for the other.”

'A baby step' in the fight for reform

A makeshift memorial stands outside the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, Monday, Oct. 29, 2018 in the aftermath of a deadly shooting at the synagogue. (AP Photo/Matt Rourke, File)

The proposed Senate deal comes after numerous mass shootings have shocked the American public for decades.

But previous calls to action have been met with congressional inaction.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer acknowledged that he is racing against the clock and said he wants to pass gun reform before the chamber's July 4 recess.

Gun safety advocates are pleased the Senate is taking some action, but they say it doesn't go far enough.

For a 56-year-old veterinarian from Fox Chapel, a suburb of Pittsburgh, the reform package falls short.

Dr. Dana Kellerman used to pray in the Tree of Life synagogue at the corner of Wilkins and Shady avenues, a busy intersection in the Squirrel Hill neighborhood of Pittsburgh that on Oct. 27, 2018, became the site of?the deadliest attack on the Jewish community in the United States .

Since then, she's been praying for action.

Kellerman is one of the founding members of Squirrel Hill Stands Against Gun Violence, a group that formed after the mass shooting at Tree of Life.

"It's a baby step," she said of the proposed gun deal.

The Senate deal won't heal her Dor Hadash congregation that worshiped at Tree of Life and lost a member in the attack that killed 11 people and wounded six, Kellerman said, speaking as the political director for Squirrel Hill Stands Against Gun Violence.

She's not a professional advocate for gun safety. It's something she's been forced to learn while processing loss.

"I feel loss and grief and anger because our elected officials haven't done anything," she said.

Kellerman was mostly pointing to the Republican-led legislature in Pennsylvania that?did not enact the reforms the survivors or Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf called after the October 2018 shooting.

In fact, the state's Republican lawmakers have moved to loosen the laws since then.

"Governor Wolf is the only thing that has stood in the way of expanding the access to guns," Kellerman said.

He is term limited and can't run for re-election this year. Democratic Attorney General Josh Shapiro, who has supported reform, and Republican Doug Mastriano, who supports expanding gun rights, are running to replace him.

Kellerman is thankful a group of 10 Republican senators, including Toomey of Pennsylvania, is supporting some kind of reform, but she's disappointed because it does nothing to remove the AR-15-style assault rifle the Tree of Life gunman used.

She's worried that if the Senate passes the gun deal, it will be "the last thing that happens for who knows how long."

Especially if Shapiro loses in Pennsylvania.

Kellerman added:?"We're not going to stop every single act of violence, but we can certainly do a lot more."

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