Thoughts on Complexity (this might get complicated ...)
Thorsten Speil
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There was an article by Niels Pfl?ging about the Cynefin framework and other complexity theories - it's here: https://lnkd.in/eCPMPbeH. Below his article, there are also already some comments.
I have the impression that partially, Pfl?ging and Snowden use the same words, but with different meaning, which is not so obvious. This leads to part of the disagreement.
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I also found even the English Wikipedia article on Cynefin pretty good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynefin_framework
?? Al Shalloway posted a link to a webinar on complexity that he did a couple of weeks ago that is recommendable and offers some good thoughts on not becoming overwhelmed by complexity: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/b5kvx2lyzc92cf7fgte4m/Complexity2.mp4?rlkey=17rk2jk5cbkxso8yh96j9qg29&dl=0
I hope you found this article interesting and would love to hear your thoughts!
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8 个月As an end user, I am feeling around for the right tools for the right job. Cynefin is the clear choice for the strategic, reaching into the many manifolds of complexity. And Theory of Constraint has served me well for the more tactical projects. May be there is room for middle tier connecting frameworks. Would like to learn from comments on methodologies such as Decalogue.
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8 个月Thorsten Speil Before you go further it might be worth recognising that ideas around complexity are locked into an abstraction built around a common set of principles/behaviours and corresponding there is no absolutism - no unitary definition or categorical right or wrong as to what is complexity. It is an odd situation and a platform for circular arguments (as evident in Pfl?ging) which just lead no-where no matter how vehemently asserted. If you are interested Richard Feynman explains the analogous situation in our understanding of energy - a topic I think we all claim to understand 'as real' "There is a certain quantity, which we call energy, that does not change in the manifold changes which nature undergoes. It is not a description of a mechanism, or anything concrete; it is just a strange fact that we can calculate some number and when we finish watching nature go through her tricks and calculate the number again, it is the same. It is an abstract thing in that it does not tell us the mechanism or the reasons for the various formulas". (Feynman - Lectures in Physics) complex
I thought this post I just made would be of interest to those on this post Understand the principles embedded in a complex system?https://bit.ly/3zQgNQP Please engage with me there. I love respectful disagreement - that's the best way to learn. This means to attack my thoughts while not mentioning me. :)
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8 个月Thorsten Speil, the cynefin model is dangerous because it fails to address the errors which people usually make when encountering complexity. Cynefin is even worse than that, because the model supports people to make even bigger and more dangerous errors on the basis of flawed ‘sensemaking’.
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8 个月IMHO complexity theory often models "causation" commingled with "interpretation," which is inevitable to some degree for any observer, but it does makes causal boundaries less clear ("Pfl?ging argues correctly that aspects of complicated and complex very often appear mixed in a situation."). Overall, Snowden's stuff looks spot on; will check the others too. Thanks, Thorsten Speil!