There's (still) no such thing as formal learning.

There's (still) no such thing as formal learning.

Six years ago I wrote a piece entitled ‘there’s no such thing as formal learning’ which - frankly - I thought was just stating the blindingly obvious, and there was a bit of debate and the world moved on.

I still hear people talking about 70/20/10 and I have used the model myself, because it’s something people recognise and it’s basically a good way to say: ‘look, stop focussing on courses and start thinking about resources and experiences that line managers can support’. It’s certainly a short-cut over explaining how people learn, and I have often used the diagram below in support of that*.

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But the other day I heard someone use the model to justify the creation of formal course-type learning and I thought ‘Oh. This might actually be dangerous.’ So I thought it might be worth revisiting the debate.

Broadly speaking the argument I heard was: 'the formal learning part might be a small component, but in certain situations (such as when you are a novice) it’s essential to have formal structure - so we should still be building courses.'

So let’s unpick the model again. Firstly, 70/20/10 is not about different kinds of learning, but the contexts in which people are learning. There aren’t different ‘kinds’ of learning in this sense.

Imagine that you did a study on digestion and found that around 5% of calories are consumed at garages, and around 5% in restaurants.

A restaurant is a formal setting. But it would be really silly to coin the expression ‘formal digestion’ as if you were doing a different kind of digestion when you were sitting in a restaurant.

Equally silly would be saying ‘around 5% of digestion ought to happen at garages’ just because, historically this has happened. Garages might actually be a terrible way to consume stuff. Charles Jennings makes this point frequently: pointing out that 70/20/10 is descriptive, not prescriptive (put simply: 70/20/10 refers to a body of research that shows that, historically, a small percentage of our learning comes from traditional training courses).

But the speaker I was listening to was making a more subtle point - he was saying that there are times when we might benefit from more structured learning.

Now this is probably true - it just doesn’t lead to courses.

For the sake of argument, let’s assume that people learn and that there are two classes of activity (push and pull) which broadly correspond to experiences and performance support. Are there times when more structure would help? Yes!

When, for example, a person joins an organisation it is super-helpful if all the resources you need are available (and in an order that makes sense) and there is someone on hand to help. I know this because I have interviewed hundreds of new starters regarding their early experience.

It is also true that a novice could do ok with just performance support alone - after all this is generally what we are doing today: a formal ‘induction course’ rarely kicks in in the first few weeks’ of a new starter’s time (typically for logistical reasons) so in the majority of cases we are just leaving people with resources (documents and people) and letting them figure it out. Also true for leadership, and many technical roles.

But it could be better: we should structure resources and experiences in a way which accelerates competence and supports confidence - and indeed a lot of my work at PA is about doing just this. Just leaving people to 'figure it out' is inefficient and can lead to mistakes and damage confidence. Instead (for example) we are building chatbots that both respond to your needs, and nudge you with the right stuff at the right time.

My point is: at no point does this become an argument for courses. Just because people consume food at a gas station, doesn’t mean this is something we should encourage. In fact it may be a bad thing. As an example, a GPS device is a form of (structured) performance support that is super-helpful if you are visiting a new city - say Montreal - for the first time. But it’s not a course. If you are plumbing for the first time, it would be great to have a chance to try things out in a practice environment. Or just have someone who knows what they are doing on hand to help. But if we start calling these kinds of experience a 'course' all kinds of terrible, ritualised, knowledge dump-y things start to happen (the term 'course' is toxic, in other words).

So yes - by all means give some thought to the structure of performance support and experiences that novices receive. But let’s just drop the ‘formal learning/course’ stuff - it was only ever Morris dancing after all.

*based on what I have said, you might wonder why I have the LMS delivering the digital/event-based formal stuff at all in this diagram. That's because it's really compliance stuff. Which isn't learning, but often is important.

P.S. this is not intended as an attack on Morris dancing which is a lovely quaint ritual, which the dancers seems to enjoy, and which I am happy to watch, say - once a year.

Brigitte E. Gubler

Leadership is not about being the best, Leadership is about making everyone better!

5 年

So true, it‘s about the context

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Gabrielle Bayme

Chief Learning Officer at the New York City Mayor's Office of Management and Budget

5 年

Another great post but I don't get the "Morris dancing" reference.

Rus Slater

I help managers to enable their people to perform better in their roles

5 年

IMHO a large part of many people's fixations with face to face courses, eLearning and digital resources all hosted on the LMS, is the ease with which this allows control and measurement.? Many L&D managers are fearful of being assessed as not able to demonstrate their contribution to ROI; everything packaged on an LMS gives them the comfort that they can produce data that supports their team's value.

Tim Dawes, MBA

Training and Development Manager | Learning and Development Manager | Change Manager

5 年

Just talked with my daughter about this. She teaches swimming. She was asking me - What do you mean by "formal learning?" What do you mean by courses? And that's a great question.??Let's break that down. It sounds to me as though you are saying, let's stop giving lectures, or giving chunks of material for people to look at, and read, and listen to on a computer. And there's little argument there. Lecture is inefficient. But is it necessary sometimes? What if we want children or new members of our culture to learn history, to learn how the United States was formed and became independent, what alternative does she have to lecture or a story or that captured in a recording, or a book? So, what do we make of learning that we think is necessary, not for any particular kind of performance, but just for being an integral part of our culture? And what about formal learning of other kinds that is productive?? Certainly, in any sport, deliberate practice with feedback is the formal learning, and it's the most effective learning. Generally, you can play as many games of tennis as you want, years of it, and you'll never get more than casually competent. But when you break down the skills, practice one at a time through repetition with expert feedback, you can become far more competent very quickly.? But that's what formal learning is in tennis. It's deliberate practice. A match is point of work, point of performance, but it's a lousy way to gain skill. So, what is it, what is the formal learning or the course, you're saying doesn't work? Is it lecture? Is it lecture about a skill? Is it anything massed? What in particular are you saying we should leave behind?

Mark Spivey

Helping us all "Figure It Out" (Explore, Describe, Explain), many Differentiations + Integrations at any time .

5 年

what is a “course” ? what is a “resource” ? are those concepts “formalized” enough to have a “course” or a “resource” for that ? what about “emergent grammar” or “usage based linguistics” which might postulate “meaning is usage, structure emerges from usage” ? but are those “things” all just “socially constructed” anyway ? so how do we argue in a way that matters more ? would you call a “formalized” (cultured) answer to that question a “frequently used resource” or a “course of study” ? implicit or explicit structuration ... it depends, right ? and of course, why do people say “formal learning” when yes we all know we mean “formal education/instruction/teaching/etc” or we say “formal digestion” when we really mean “formal dining” ... we shouldn’t confuse nor conflate what we do with why we do with how we do ... we shouldn’t confuse nor conflate the interrogatives ... people also all have varying levels of “semiotic zoom”, and those levels shouldn’t “reduce” (reductionism) per se ... how people eat doesn’t reduce to how digestive systems digest . how humans experience doesn’t reduce to how brains learn . upward and downward causation, etc ...

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