Tax in Professional Services: Same S**t, Different Firm?

Tax in Professional Services: Same S**t, Different Firm?

I recently met a new Big 4 partner contact for coffee.

We talked about the market,?their new hiring strategy, and how Big 4 firms can really distinguish themselves from their competitors when attracting new hires.

And I started telling this partner how, in my experience, all of the Big 4s (as with most other firms) sing from the same hymn sheet when asked what makes them great and why candidates should join them. They'll all tell you:

  • how diverse & inclusive they are
  • how they embrace flexible working
  • that they have a "great culture" (as if we all have a universal agreement on what constitutes a "great culture")
  • how they support career progression and learning & development

All of the above is apparently what makes their firm "unique" but, in reality, is what makes all firms seem exactly the same to those on the outside.

Talk about the individual journeys & experiences

For me, what really adds value to those toying with a move is understanding?the unique journeys and experiences of those within the firm - and in particular, the journey of the partner they'll be working for.

You could have two people, both working for the same firm, and one could absolutely hate it whilst the other thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread. Why? People work for managers, not companies.?Yes, the company you work for creates the infrastructure of various workplace institutions but, ultimately, it's the hiring manager that really defines employee experience.

So when I was having a morning coffee with this Big 4 partner, we deep dived into her own journey. And what was unique (yes, the go-to adjective for those who are selling an employer) about this partner is that she joined as a graduate 15 years ago and has demonstrated a text book career in her ascent to partnership. In this day and age, where people move around jobs so frequently and the indirect tax profession grapples with such a candidate short market, it really is 'unique' to see someone remain impervious to the countless headhunts and taps on the shoulder from competitors.

So why has she stayed so loyal for 15 years?

There were a variety of things mentioned but, ultimately, it all boiled down to "the people". Here are some quotes that I scribbled down whilst she elaborated:

"I love that I get to work in a business where everyone wants to succeed."
"We have a team that encourages you to be entrepreneurial and follow your nose. It's this that?has enabled me to explore various specialisms over the years and then build my partner case."
"I've only ever seen a team here that's completely in it together. We all challenge each other and know that we've got a fantastic support network behind us."

Yes, there were various other factors that influenced?a 15+ year career in one firm for this partner, but what really stood out in her journey was just how great the people were.

So why are the individual stories important?

I've heard countless times over the years from those in practice that making a move will just be the same job, different firm - or as some have more aptly put it: "same s**t, different firm". And I totally get it. Most firms do need to sharpen their tools when distinguishing?themselves in a competitive market. Visit the career page of any random firm and it'll become understandable why so many assume it's going to be much of the same (and it's therefore little surprise why so many feel their only option is to go in-house!).

But if you're a tax professional working in professional services, I can tell you that all of these firms really are so different - for right or wrong reasons. And beyond that, every partner creates an entirely new employee experience.

There is a firm for you out there.

There is a partner out there that you'll hit it off with.

So don't hang up the professional services gloves too prematurely. My team and I at Harvey John work hard to ensure we dive deep behind the waffle so that we can present you with tailored solutions in your job search. All you've got to do is reach out if you'd like to see if there's a firm for you.

And if you'd like to learn more about what makes the people in this Big 4 firm so great, I'll be happy to tell you more about my coffee meeting with this Indirect Tax Partner.


If you'd like to speak with a member of the Harvey John Tax Team, you can reach out to:

  • Alex Mann - Global Indirect Tax, Customs, & Tax Technology
  • Andrew Wilson - Global Indirect Tax & Tax Technology
  • Ewa Milner-Walker - Global Direct Tax & Transfer Pricing
  • Claire Jones - Direct Tax (South East Accountancy Firms, UK)
  • Dominique Smith ACA - Direct Tax (South East Accountancy Firms, UK)

Vlad Milosavljevic

President & CEO @ Zeikin Consulting Inc. | CPA

1 个月

Been at 2/4…and to modify the opening line slightly “same sh** different packaging”?? Grateful for all the experiences (mostly how certain things in corporate world should not be done/handled) and friendships made but that’s about it

Mike Soulby

Former Director Global Mobility

1 个月

Having worked for 3 of the big four I have to say that to a great extent the opening line is very true. Some differences come and go depending on which firm is in ascendancy at the time but in terms of opportunity, reward and talent management the 3 I worked for were very much alike. My experience was based on working in global mobility.

Natalie Dowling

All Things Operational Tax

2 个月

Am I the only one who isn't sure whether this is supposed to be a positive or a negative point of view piece?

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Laurence Kiddle

Helping companies manage the complex world of tax and regulatory compliance

2 个月

Alex - reading this reminded me of the great fact that chimpanzees and humans share 98.8 percent?of the same DNA. But what a difference that 1.2% makes! I've worked for, sold to and partnered with these firms for longer than I'd care to remember. Yes, they are at least 98.8% the same... but only if you think about a Firm as a single monolithic whole. When you're moving between them, you're joining a small team - the 1.2% of difference - rather than a logo. Elsewhere on LinkedIn I've seen criticism of the multi stage interviews that are often part of a move, but to me that's an integral part of getting to know the team rather than the logo.

Eduard Nastase - Transfer Pricing and International Taxation

Unlocking Global Opportunities: The Exciting World of TPD & International Taxation!

2 个月

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