The Small Machine Shop ERP Software Problem.

The Small Machine Shop ERP Software Problem.

The Small Machine Shop Software Problem. I had a back and forth discussion the other day with someone about implementing an ERP system in a small machine shop that I thought would be interesting to share some of my thoughts and hear from others. This is something of a soap box I tend to get on, I believe a businesses growth is often dependent on their ability to organize and ERP programs are the generally accepted means of implementing that organization.

To start off, I’m defining a small shop as anywhere from 1 to 3 employees(owner included). While there is a lot of work involved when a shop is larger, in my mind, the biggest hurdles for a small business is getting to employee #2 and #3. Especially after the 2020 shutdown, there has been a burst of shops opening up, usually being done solo, possibly with a partner or 2. I’d say that there is an enormous volume of machine shops that fit in this window but don’t get very much attention in a way they need. The hype folks starting out get is fantastic, the vocal support for those trekking on their own is great and necessary. What’s missing from this puzzle though is actual support. Most software aimed at manufacturing and machine shops specifically, aren’t priced for these smallest of shops and from a usability standpoint, a lot of them require a significant amount of effort to use and maintain. Something that is accepted in larger shops, but impossible with startups. Let’s dive into what I view as two of the main points of contention stopping the smallest of shops from adopting some of these key programs.

#1 Too Expensive to adopt.

One of the biggest hurdles stopping a small shop from adopting an ERP system or some software from helping them operate is the cost. When you’re starting up, almost every dollar you make goes right back into the business. Every cent has a variety of needs it has to fulfil from new tooling, to machine payments, to material for the next round of orders. A shop starting up usually doesn’t have a buffer so it’s operated as cash in, cash out.

This doesn’t really stop until the shop gets to a consistent $300,000+ per year when the speed of growth slows down relative to revenue. And yet, even operating at $100,000 annually there is dozens of moving parts to track at any one point and when just one person running every position, this adds up to an incredible amount of effort that could be helped by an ERP-like software solution.

The problem is, most ERP solutions start at around $700/month. For a shop making $100,000 per year, that’s 8% of their budget for what is essentially an organizational tool. 8% of your budget going to what is essentially a filing cabinet on steroids. The pay off once you implement it and use it for a period of time may make that cost worth it, but you have to find a way to hoof that cost until you see the payoff sometime in the future. Beyond that 8%, you may also have additional software costs such as the CAD/CAM software, accounting software, website and email costs. By the end of it, 10% of your revenue is gone before you’ve even looked at physical costs just to software.

#2 Usability is too complex

Another hurdle that often comes up with most ERP systems if you can make sense of the cost, is the amount of effort it takes to implement the program. ERP programs tend to have fairly rigid process flows they want the users to adhere to. The problem is when first starting out, while you may check all the same boxes in terms of process (quote, purchase, build, QC, finishing, QC, ship, invoice), a lot of times these are happening sporadically through out the day. Quote job A while you’re running job B and somewhere in that mix you need to buy material for job C and finish inspecting job D so it can ship.

ERPs, being the monolithic entities they tend to be, aren’t really nimble enough to make it easy to jump between key functions like that to keep up with the pace a startup operates. They may make it simple to use within any specific module, but if you miss any step or piece of information that system wants, there may be hell to pay to find what was missed and correct it. While it may just be 5 minutes to get that one task back up to speed, multiply that over all the tasks that need to be done at any point in time and it stacks up quickly. The impact of all those ‘quick tasks’ has a major effect when you are a one person shop due to the fact that for every minute you aren’t cutting chips, is a minute the business isn’t making money.


If you’re a larger business who has a larger budget and have employees who’s only purpose is to keep the machines moving, then it’s much easier to implement these systems without feeling the impact of lost revenue like a startup does. I think most ERPs are built for these businesses because its an easier product to build and an easier sale to make. Simply having a tool that can do the job is sufficient. But despite the size of the smallest of machine shops, it is ironically is a much more difficult problem to solve. The software solution can’t just do the job, but it needs to do it well.

Stephanie Ewing

Founder and Principal Consultant , Mindful Continuous Improvement Strategies, I help businesses optimize processes and empower mindsets to achieve transformational results.

7 个月

If the answer is cost, I am sure there are some process improvement and OEE actions that can be taken to boost productivity and free up cash!

Paul Van Metre

I Help Machine Shops Excel - Former Machine Shop Owner - ERP QMS MES Solutions & 3x Podcast Host ??

8 个月

Great article and conversation Jesse Casto. I agree that very small shops are often led astray and oversold with complex ERP solutions. There is a lot of misinformation out there and it does a lot of harm to small shops. I would add some nuance to the comment that an ERP is a "filing cabinet on steroids". While some are 100% that way and should be avoided, the right solutions can be meaningful multipliers of efficiency and revenue generation, well beyond the cost. We have many 1-4 person shops who'll tell you that they could never ship the amount of revenue that they can with ProShop ERP. So yes, while the minimum cost is around $700 per month, if the increased efficiency, fewer mistakes, etc. let them ship an additional 25%+ more revenue per year, the cost is not even a factor. And if a small shop wants to break into markets requiring quality certifications like AS9100 or ISO-13485, the argument for a solution just gets more compelling. We're putting the finishing touches on a shop tour video of a 2 man shop that just got ISO 13485 certified with ProShop, and they'll tell you that without the organization of our system, they'd couldn't have gotten certified, nor be as efficient to ship more $ with higher margins. Thanks!

Spencer Mallett, MBA

Business Owner | Business Operations Professional | Personal Development Coach | Strategic Leadership | Operational Excellence | Sense-maker | Utilizing data-driven decision-making to capture business efficiencies

8 个月

Jesse Casto I agree with the majority of your article. I’ve worked in a small manufacturing shop, albeit larger than 1-2 people, and it was still difficult to implement an ERP. The two obvious barriers for me are cost and complexities. Cost is an obvious one. However, complexity is the one that I think is the real killer of ERP purchases. Many business owners start their business because they’re good at “the thing they do” (ie manufacturing in this case). However, they don’t have a clear understanding of what goes into running a business. ERPs are great at organizing all of the overhead in a business, but owners don’t always understand how/why that needs to be captured. All of the bells and whistles of an ERP can quickly confuse and scare away startups. ERPs are clearly great tools to have in the belt, but they are not the end-all-be-all if the owner doesn’t understand what the tools are really there for. To me, it all comes down to a willingness to understand and learn. If an owner understands how important capturing overhead is, they will know the importance of an ERP. However, it never hurts to learn the business side a little bit more to optimize the ERP’s effectiveness.

Daniel Soderlund

CloudNC Senior Account Executive / Profit Retention Expert / Lover of All Things Manufacturing

9 个月

Your article brings up a crucial topic in the realm of small and growing machine shops. One of the biggest obstacles stopping a new machine shop from adopting an ERP solution is the perceived complexity and cost of implementation. Be sure that you do your due diligence and make sure that the ERP you choose is the last one you choose!!

Brett Lister

Owner of B&B Dynamic Machining

9 个月

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