Should PE and VC Join Forces?
Benjamin Levy
Partner, Co-Head of Venture Capital and AI & Innovation Groups at Ares Management
@BurtonLee recently posted this interesting FT Article which is hinting on some of the things I have been talking to a few close friends recently: Titans turns attention to Silicon Valley. Private equity wants to enter venture capital territory of tech investing.
"We have missed the boat on tech investing,” says the co-founder of one of the major US private equity firms. “All the power is moving to Silicon Valley.”
As it turns out, few people have the ability to have a deep understanding of both the PE and VC world. People have either one or the other.
If, like me, you had an opportunity to dab into both worlds, it would become pretty quickly apparent that PE firms have historically been focused on more traditional (read non tech) businesses that usually cash flow sooner and also have more stable (read non exponential) growth curves. PE firms would then apply financial engineering and (not often enough maybe) operational expertise to leverage that same cash flow and maximize ROI. More than creating new value, PE firms tend to squeeze equity value creation out of existing assets, by increasing debt on businesses and optimizing cash flow. In 2007, leverage went almost completely away, having a sobering effect on the PE industry but the last 7 years of cheap credit/money, supported by the US Monetary Policy, has once again boosted the leverage ratio to 5-6x EBITDA multiples... Irresistible appeal of cheap money when you are a financiers and pressure for banks to put it to work.
As indicated in the FT article, the swelling of dry powder available to PE/Buy-Out firms (~$4Tr AUM) as well as the number of firms (~6K) is resulting in an extremely competitive landscape where PE firms are desperate for deals and scavenging every corner of the globe for worthwhile "existing" companies to buy or invest in... Lately, there isn't a week that goes by where I do not receive an email from "XYZ" PE firm asking me to refer a >$5M EBITDA companies, etc...
I think it is worth mentioning the difference between Buy-Out and Growth Financing strategies..one buys a company, provide liquidity to the founders/shareholders and with or without their help, drive further growth to sell it again in a few years or IPO it (sometimes after taking it private to do all the necessary restructuring away from the public eyes) vs. growth financing, which usually provide acceleration capital to scale operations, expand in other verticals or geographies and sometimes provide (partial) liquidity for early investors or founders.
The later definitely overlaps with late stage venture investment funds in term of strategy but the historical divide has usually been the "sectors" in which each would play. Growth Equity/PE fund would usually get involved in traditional (read non tech) industries while Late Stage VC/Growth Funds would mostly focused on Tech stuff.
It is obvious that today, companies like AirBnB, Uber, Palantir and others are disrupting traditional industries (PE's historical private hunting grounds) and this is what is concerning them. Technology is not a sector, it is an enabler and thus will transform all sectors, providing VCs with an unprecedented opportunity to go after the PE's lunch.
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The challenge is that most PE firms have limited access (read relationships), or credibility (expertise/ value-add beyond their cash), when it comes to helping tech companies scale.
It is then natural to start seeing a growing interest of cash rich PE firms looking "upstream" toward VC firms that have built reputation, expertise and deal flow with technology companies. With late stage rounds in the hundreds of millions, these "unicorns" start to become meaningful at the scale of the PE firms and can move the needle in their fund.
It is also interesting to me that some PE firms have historically been a bit more "global" in their modus operandi and thus could play a very interesting relay for international growth of VC portfolio companies when times come to scale quickly across the globe and prevent the Rocket Internet guys to copycat you. But that would mean that your VC partnership is thinking beyond its city borders..not an obvious one in what has been mostly a cottage industry.
One of the main challenges I see in this odd marriage between PE & VC is that, in general, their respective DNA could not be more opposite. One is seen as a Wall St ex-consultant/Investment banker by one, while the other is seen as a presumptuous #SOB that thinks his revenue-less portfolio companies are worth $Bn of dollars.
But cooperation does not have to take the form of a buy-out and partnerships as well as co-investment can be a great start.
Partner, Co-Head of Venture Capital and AI & Innovation Groups at Ares Management
10 年Andrew Randall thank you for your comment. Great couple of PE and VC to have on your side. Also interesting to note that while both forms are very tech centric (FP is one of these few tech PE shops), that their execution and culture renaimed quite "different" ;) but maybe the best past of your story is that you bootstrapped to $100M in Revenue!
Product and business strategy, Microsoft Azure
10 年When our company took its first investment (having bootstrapped to $100m revenue over 26 years!) we brought on both a PE and a VC firm (Francisco Partners & Sequoia Capital). It has been a great experience for us to see both sides of that coin and to get the advice from two very different perspectives. However it all comes down to personalities and I think the ego issues you allude to mean this is never going to become commonplace.
Partner, Co-Head of Venture Capital and AI & Innovation Groups at Ares Management
10 年Keith Bates Jared TateT Burton Lee PhD MBA. Thx for your comment. Good reminder and indeed, these worlds tend to collide in bull markets more so than in bear markets but "this time is different"? :) Arguably, some of the most successful companies were started during recessions so if I were a visionary at a global and growth focused PE firm looking building the next generation PE firm, I would build "full-stack" shop and make sure to stay clos(er) to innovation and venture firms, independently of how hot or cold the market is.. Similarly large corporate come play VC when the market is hot and stop when the market is not.. consistency, iterations and vision win the race here in the long run I believe.
Strategy | Private Equity
10 年I feel like with the way the economy is growing more and more unicorns, some of the PE investors would be even better suited to invest late stage than most venture firms. Especially if the investment option is already profitable.
Strategy & M&A advisor for tech & marketing sectors. windigobay.com | Toronto ????
10 年This refrain was heard during the last bubble too--until it popped. PE and VC live at opposite ends of the spectrum. It's only the prolonged bubble in tech and the bull market in PE--thanks, low interest rates!--that get firms thinking that going into a business that is one's exact opposite makes sense.