Are Shell Elements and Plate Elements always sufficient for modelling and simulating the actual Structural Behaviour?
Amir Elginaid Yousif, Ph.D
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Are Shell Elements and Plate Elements always sufficient for modelling and simulating the actual Structural Behaviour?
Okay, straight-forward, the answer is No.
Elements Geometry in the Real World
In the real world, all geometries are inherently three-dimensional (3D). To achieve the most accurate simulation of structural elements, it is essential to model them in 3D, fully accounting for their third dimension.
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Shell and Plate Elements
When modelling slabs using shell or plate elements, the thickness is defined but assumes uniform perpendicular behaviour. This means the upper and lower faces are treated as having identical properties and responses. The meshing algorithm for these elements generates a 2D mesh on one face (the source face) and sweeps it along the length or width of the component to create the opposite face (the target face). As a result, the two faces are geometrically and behaviourally identical.
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Solid Elements
In contrast, solid elements provide a more realistic representation of 3D behaviour. These elements require specific preprocessing to meet the requirements of 3D meshing algorithms, which generate meshes throughout the volume of the element. Consequently, the results at the top face of a solid element can differ from those at the bottom face, accurately reflecting the non-uniform behaviour across the thickness of the element.
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Is it always mandatory to use a Solid element instead of Shell or plate elements for simulating structural models?
First, we need to know that the nodal degrees of freedom (DOF) vary for different element types depending on the physical behaviour they are designed to model. Here's a breakdown:
1. Plate Elements
2. Membrane Elements
3. Shell Elements
4. Solid Elements
From the key points above, we can conclude that:
·???????? For thin plates, the shell or plate elements could be computationally sufficient and could give somehow accurate results.
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·???????? For thick plates and scenarios requiring detailed analysis of stresses and strains, solid elements are suitable.
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A critical common mistake is: Modelling Transfer Slabs as Shell Element.
One of the most frequent and critical mistakes in structural analysis is incorrectly modelling transfer slabs as shell or plate elements. Transfer slabs are typically thick, and using shell or plate elements for such slabs can lead to significant inaccuracies or even structural failures. Instead, they should be modelled as solid elements. Here’s why:
1. Accurate Representation of Stress and Strain
2. Proper Modelling of Shear Deformation
Why This Matters for Transfer Slabs
Transfer slabs play a vital role in distributing loads in structures, often supporting significant forces from columns or walls above. These slabs must be modelled accurately to ensure safety and reliability. Using shell elements for such slabs is not just an oversight—it can lead to critical design errors.
Someone could ask a question and say: Slabs are mainly bending plates, so how could solid elements capture the bending moments and deflection while it have no bending degrees of freedom?
The answer is: While solid elements do not have explicit rotational degrees of freedom or bending moments, they inherently capture bending behaviour through 2 mechanisms:
Yes, there might be challenges with calculating Bending Moment: Since bending moments are not directly calculated, they must be derived from the stress distribution, which can add complexity in post-processing.
Alternative Approach: Hybrid Modelling
Hybrid modelling is a practical approach for analysing very thick slabs, especially when dealing with large structures. By combining solid and shell elements strategically, you can achieve a balance between computational efficiency and accuracy, ensuring both reliable results and manageable analysis times. I mean:
Conclusion:
While solid elements do not have explicit bending moments, they are capable of accurately capturing bending behaviour through stress distributions. For very thick transfer slabs, solid elements are recommended due to their ability to handle complex 3D stress states and significant shear deformations. The bending moments can be derived from the computed stress distributions during post-processing, ensuring the slab is designed correctly. In some cases, hybrid modelling with shell elements can provide a practical compromise.
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Byggnadskonstrukt?r - Certifierad St?lkonstrukt?r - TR-St?l/N - Skyddsrumssakkunnig (K) - Diplomerad Tr?konstrukt?r - GIStructE
1 个月I would say that Reissner-Mindlin theory strikes a good balance between computational efficiency and accuracy in almost all cases for building structures.
Ph.D., Senior Structural Engineer, Discipline Lead at Sweco
1 个月I could add one more key point for shell elements: Shell elements despite of 6 degree of freedom on each node, are not necessarily consistent for the slope on the boundaries to the next shell element, so the accuracy of the results are more dependent on the mesh size comparing to solid elements.
FEA Consultant since 1996 | Project Management
1 个月You can always build the 'stiffness' model with shells and then use the sub-modelling tech with solids (fine mesh) off the shells global model, which is super-fast. It works for complete vehicles, don't see why not for civil engineering.
Strategic Portfolio & Technical Integration Manager - Owner at AAA-Integration
1 个月Amir Elginaid Yousif, Ph.D I totally agree with you, the major problem in commercial software is poor background stability and straining action calculations, you need either good research background or powerful software that takes into consideration stress and strains stability in resultant straining action specifically in critical elements with huge shear force like transfer slab
Chartered Structural Engineer | Owner - Empace Civil & Structural Engineers | IStructE - Vice Chair of the Small Practitioners Panel & Member of Education Committee | University of Bradford - Industrial Advisory Board
1 个月Great write up. I suppose the problem is analogous to the issue of deep beam behaviour simplifications. An obvious question comes to mind: why not just model deep elements as idealised strut and tie? It's probably the most efficient approach in real world practice, at least until computers are powerful enough to bang out a full 3d building analysis in solids, before your first sip of coffee ? (my personal benchmark for these things).