Q&A with Erline Herrmann: Growing Young Talent
IWIRC Indonesia
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This is the fourth instalment in IWIRC Indonesia’s Q&A series with people who can share their insights and experience with the community.
We speak to Erline Herrmann, Partner at Adnan Kelana Haryanto & Hermanto and Co-Chair of American Chamber of Commerce in Indonesia (AmCham Indonesia) Young Professionals Committee. Erline has worked at corporate law firms in Singapore, London and Jakarta, representing both foreign investors and Indonesian companies. Her practice focuses on banking and finance as well as M&A involving Indonesian assets or companies.
1. Can you please share with us how you progressed to being a partner with international experience? What are the biggest lessons that you learned in your career?
When I first started university, I had no idea what corporate law was all about. I was the first in my extended family to study law and become a lawyer. My English was also far from fluent, and I had to keep learning and practicing along the way.
My first real international experience came when I studied abroad for my LL.M. I was fortunate that this led to an opportunity to work at international firms in Singapore. I was lucky to be involved in various cross-border transactions (some of them turned out to be high-profile), had the chance to be seconded to London, and met many interesting people. Along the way, even up until now, I’ve learned so much from my colleagues and mentors.
One of the biggest lessons I’ve learned from these experiences is that hard work really does pay off. But I also believe there’s a time and place for everything, and sometimes luck plays a part. There’s a saying, “luck is when preparation meets opportunity”. While we can’t control the opportunities that come our way, we can control the effort we put into preparing for them.
2. The rapid development of Artificial Intelligence (AI) means it may replace humans for some routine legal work. How can young lawyers stay relevant and learn the necessary skills to move up the value chain?
AI is a powerful tool, and like any tool, its value lies in how well it is used. While AI is advancing rapidly and may eventually take over some routine legal tasks, for now, humans still need to possess the foundational skills—such as research, writing, communication, and the ability to apply common sense, think critically, and generate ideas.
As information and knowledge become more accessible through technology, I think young lawyers should focus on what sets them apart from others who have access to the same resources. Moving up the value chain doesn’t always require groundbreaking innovation. It could be as simple as being detail-oriented, committed, organized, or resourceful.
Ultimately, career advancement often depends on other people—whether decision-makers, mentors, or colleagues—who will support you one way or another. While AI can help you be more efficient, it’s important to cultivate qualities that distinguish you personally that can add value to the team or the work, as everyone will be using the same technology.
3. How do you think firms can attract and retain young talent?
In my opinion, to attract and retain young talent, firms need to clearly communicate not only what they do but also explain the role that young professionals will play in the organization. It’s crucial for young employees to understand and feel relevant about how their work contributes to the firm's overall goals and success. Many young people are eager for experience but can often feel uncertain about their place or purpose. By offering a clear understanding of their responsibilities, growth opportunities, and the value they bring, firms can foster a greater sense of purpose and belonging. Creating a supportive environment that encourages continuous learning, mentorship, and career development, I think, can go a long way in retaining top talent.
4. Lastly, do you have any tips for young professionals who are trying to make their mark?
For young professionals trying to make their mark, my advice would be to remember that it’s a long game, success takes time. Don’t expect things to happen immediately or try to rush the process. Always do your best but stay grounded and humble.
Adopt a “can-do” attitude. Don’t be quick to say no or “I can’t,” even if it means facing challenges or making mistakes along the way. Challenges are opportunities for growth and learning—they provide invaluable experience that becomes your capital.?
And don’t forget to take care of yourself—both mentally and physically. If you're not feeling good, it’s tough to stay positive and focused.