PMI, APM, and Chartered Status for Project Managers
Mounir Ajam
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I do not know enough about the UK system of "Chartered" Status but I understand this is a like a recognition by government of a professional domain. For example a chartered engineers is like a professional engineer or licensed engineer status in North America. To achieve such a status, the candidate must prove certain abilities and what I understand it is not easy.
The above is what i understand and if I am not 100% accurate, would love for someone to correct me and explain the situation.
Based on the above - it is good for the "profession" or domain to get that recognition.
Today, project management as a field and its certifications (from all organizations) do not have such recognition (professional or chartered status). APM (the Association for Project Management in UK) has applied to the UK Government to recognize project managers to reach the level of Chartered PM. IMHO this is good, assuming PM will be scrutinized (more than just achieving a PMP or PRINCE2) before they are granted this status.
Would you agree this is good for project management?
Would this help improve projects performance?
If you agree, then one would think that the largest and richest project management organization in the world will support this move, don't you agree?
Well think again.
PMI (the largest and richest) has filed a lawsuit with the UK government trying to prevent this action.
Why?
Obviously, if APM get the chartered status - it may mean APM certificates in UK (and maybe elsewhere) will be more recognized than the PMP. Bad for PMI. At least, this is our opinion.
So they filed a lawsuit - and lost.
They appealed - and lost.
What is next? Waiting to see if the UK government will recognize project management.
Would be great if some colleagues can shed more light on the situation.
?#?PMI? ?#?PMOT? ?#?Law? ?#?Project_Management? ?#?Ethics? ?#?Bullys? ?#?Corruption?
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9 年I agree with you 100% I am a Chartered Professional Engineer and get more recognition from the industries
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9 年Yes they appealed once to the, "Appeal Court" and all three judges agreed with the first trial judges opinion and so appeal was rejected. Now the PMI are appealing to the Supreme Court which I doubt they have much chance of winning. Barristers and lawyers are very expensive - I would surmise 100's of thousands has been spent on this. PMI Members should question if this is a valid use of their money. They would have the right to sue the board who agreed to this if they thought pursuing this was frivolous or negligent use of their monies. It is obvious to a 3 year old why the PMI are doing this. Purely commercial interests and not members interests.
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9 年Seems the PMI are appealing - frivolous and wasting courts time and members money. Update 28th January: PMI have sought leave to appeal to the Supreme Court. A decision on this is awaited.
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9 年https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartered_%28professional%29 I personally think the actions of the PMI over this are nothing short of disgraceful. Will they appeal again to the highest court in the land (House of Lords) and waste more of their members money in very high legal fees? Seems to me to be pure hubris on the part of the PMI. I for one am looking forward to the APM being successful and Project Management getting the recognition it deserves. PMI is acting against this.