One Last Check: Why You Should Pay $1,000 For Each Exit Interview
Juliet Funt
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The quest to understand why employees leave—and how to get them to stay—has become corporate America's favorite mystery to solve. I recently sat in on a Chamber of Commerce roundtable where CEOs wrung their hands over retention leaks, trading theories and solutions like baseball cards. Leaders are pulling out all the stops: focus groups, stay interviews, engagement surveys, and town halls. Yet employees keep leaving.?
We must acknowledge that a portion of this dance stems from a post-COVID rupture in the cohesive and nurturing feelings once found in company culture. For some time, I’ve believed that younger employees often leave in a recurring cycle, searching for something that only truly thrives when people are together in person. And yet they don't want to be back in the office. And so, they leave again to find something that feels different, only to be greeted with the same confusing emptiness. But for today, let's put this particular thing aside.
The numbers of retention paint a stark picture. As of April 2024, despite a slight dip in turnover rates to 3.4%, voluntary resignations still account for nearly two-thirds of all job separations. That's double the rate of layoffs. We're not just losing people—we're watching willing and talented workers choose to walk away.
Let's look at the shocking math.?
For a mid-level corporate employee making $80,000 annually, the costs spiral quickly. There's the immediate productivity drop in their final weeks ($6,000), followed by an average of 42 days to fill the position—during which teams operate at 65% efficiency, costing another $20,000 in lost productivity. Add recruitment costs, including advertising and interviewing ($24,000), onboarding and training the replacement ($40,000), and the productivity ramp-up period where the new hire operates at partial capacity for up to six months ($25,000). We haven't even factored in the cultural impact, lost institutional knowledge, or dampened team morale.?
Total price tag? Anywhere from $90,000 to $160,000—per departure. And that's assuming you can find a replacement in this market.?
What’s more is that 77% of the time, when someone walks away from your business, it’s preventable. And that’s not just my opinion, but proven research from the Work Institute .?
While we’re all obsessing over the obvious costs, we’re missing the deeper story. Most people aren’t leaving for more money. Glassdoor found that 80% of employees would rather have a healthier workplace than a bigger paycheck, but we’ll never know what “better” looks like if we don’t get honest about why they’re really leaving.
Ever wonder what your employees are really feeling?
Here's a radical proposition: What if we compensated departing employees for their candid and thorough feedback??
I propose we pay departing employees a substantial exit interview fee—say, $1,000—for an hour of brutal honesty. (I’d love it to be plunked down on the desk in cash, but that’s likely impractical.) Here we are pressing to move beyond the avoidant and sanitized version of the truth we usually get. We need unvarnished details about the interpersonal friction, the workload breaking points, the logistical nightmares, and the leadership disconnects that actually drove them to take that recruiter call. We would share that we’re paying them because we truly care, because the full truth will make many of their ex-colleagues happier; and we need to stress that is safe for them to be honest.?
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How do we ensure this investment delivers real value? How do we protect both the company and the departing employee? Here's the framework:?
In my work, I've seen that understanding teams before there's a problem is always best—it's preventative medicine versus an autopsy. But when someone's already heading out the door, a paid exit interview might be your last chance to learn what went wrong. Yes, some companies require exit interviews for severance, but there's a world of difference between checking a box and sharing genuine truth.?
If you don't understand why someone left, you're destined to repeat the same patterns. Each unexplored departure makes you more likely to say expensive, painful goodbyes to others who'll leave for similar reasons.??
Let me know what you discover when you're willing to pay for the truth.
Sources & Further Reading:?
- Employee Turnover Costs and Statistics: "The True Costs of Employee Turnover," Built In .
- Preventable Turnover Percentage: "2020 Retention Report," Work Institute .
- Employee Satisfaction and Benefits Preference: "Glassdoor Survey Reveals Four in Five Employees Prefer New Benefits or Perks to a Pay Raise," Glassdoor .
- Cost per Hire and Time to Fill Position: "Human Capital Benchmarking Report," Society for Human Resource Management SHRM), HR Chief.
- Voluntary Resignations Statistics: "U.S. Employee Turnover Statistics in 2024: Retention Rate, Costs...," EarthWeb , TeamStage .?
Senior Army Officer at Canadian Armed Forces | Forces armées canadiennes
4 个月Exit interviews are worth their weight in gold! Years ago as a sub-unit commander in an Artillery Regiment, I grilled my troops who were "getting out" regarding the real reasons and their dissatisfaction. One soldier wanted to release and re-enrol with the infantry. Until his Battery Commander (me) came up with the crazy idea of moving him to a different position where he could work closer with the infantry and do more of those things, he thought his only option was to release. I ruffled some feathers and forced a lateral move for this soldier, but in the end, he was happy and we saved hundreds of thousands of dollars and five to six years of time to train a replacement. Sometimes it can be that easy! By the way, I loved A Minute To Think.
I don’t have all the answers. Let’s find solutions together and not be divisive or derogatory.
4 个月Juliet Funt, I worked for a public company for 25+ years that grew to over $1B in sales and brought ~40% to the bottom line. It was clear people were their most important asset and paid them fully for what they were worth. Competitive base salary, incentive, significant profit sharing (averaged >30% of total compensation) generous equity, discretionary bonuses, lower cost insurance, and 6 week sabbatical every 5 years! They also encouraged employees to speak up when they had good ideas or felt there was something that could be done better. There were only 5-6 levels in the organization, all doors were open (including CEO), and everyone was expected to answer their phone and not hide behind voicemail or email. Everyone was authorized to make decisions within their scope, and employees were encouraged to take on new responsibilities where they saw a need. Needless to say, turnover was extremely low, and the company attracted the best of the best employees, because you got paid what you were worth. Everyone minimized their expenditures and most efforts were taken to maximize revenue and increase efficiency, productivity, and profitability. It was as close to a meritocracy as I was able to find. We were blessed!
I’m a shrink for organisations (PhD not MD), your merchant and mercenary in finding #collaborations and #possibilities - Together we are bold. None of my posts & comments represent any opinions of my employers & clients.
4 个月Thought-provoking Juliet, as always, you never disappoint ??
Program Manager | Scrum Master | Agile Coach | Software Development and New Product Introduction | Finance and Enterprise Applications | Cross-Functional Leader
4 个月It's an interesting concept, Juliet. At the same time, if someone has chosen to leave your org, I don't think offering $1000 for an exit interview is money well spent. The people leaving on good terms will be happy as part of their last days to spend an hour on this without additional compensation, and those who are leaving on poor terms will be unlikely to believe that their feedback will be used well. Otherwise, they would have given it while gainfully employed. The offer of payment can be a sorting function, to gain insight into who leaves happily and who on poor terms. If you have more of the latter, you know you have work to do.
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4 个月When I had the pleasure of speaking with Adrienne Belyea Prentice in a Keep Company x JFG (Juliet Funt Group) discussion, she brought up some great points about her time conducting third-party exit interviews. She said a lot of people who weren't speaking up would say, "This is not sustainable," (and sometimes question if it were them) without the chance to explore what would make it sustainable. Adrienne Belyea Prentice, I'd love to get your thoughts on Juliet's proposal here! ??