Is The “Office” Asset Class Still A Good Investment?
Foreshadowing the capital stack evolution

Is The “Office” Asset Class Still A Good Investment?

Foreshadowing the capital stack evolution

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?"A lot of office owners and operators are already in a tough spot and adding fuel to that fire is the coming recession and the interest rates that might be dragging us there. So I think everyone is looking at this and everyone in the world is thinking about it."
- Franco Faraudo


Welcome to Episode 9 of Season 8 of the?#WorkBold?Podcast, sponsored by?TSK.

I think we can all agree there is concern with the economic volatility right now, especially as interest rates rise.

But how does this affect investing in the "office" asset class?

Rising rates increase the cost of capital, which puts pressure on the office development business plan. There is a growing trend of companies wanting flexibility in contractual commitments, but typical valuation methodologies do not recognize revenue not contained within long lease contracts. What about all these companies reducing their office real estate footprints, which is expected to continue over the next few years as rightsizing and the flight to quality takes place. (I wrote about that here)

Unpacking These Issues

I read an article in Propmodo recently that addressed some of these issues and thought this needs to be shared far and wide. So I invited Propmodo cofounder and Editor, Franco Faraudo to join me for a chat and unpack some of the points in this piece he wrote.

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In this episode, Franco tells us how rising interest rates will affect office real estate specifically. We go on to discuss how the increasing cost of capital may shake up the capital stack for “the office”. You’re going to hear why lenders may not have the same appetite for offices, how investor profiles may evolve, why a valuation pullback is expected and whether a valuation reset is imminent.?

Naturally I used this opportunity to find out whether Space-as-a-Service could be the unsung hero for the office.

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And if you’re not already a subscriber to Propmodo, this episode should convince you to signup today.

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Value Bombs:

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?A lot of office owners and operators are already in a tough spot and adding fuel to that fire is the coming recession and the interest rates that might be dragging us there. So I think everyone is looking at this and everyone in the world is thinking about it - Franco

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For a lot of companies going forward, if you have a flexible space in the same building as a company has their traditional lease space, that can give them a bit of peace of mind - Franco

There's not a lot of good data surrounding flex spaces which makes them less appealing for lenders - Franco

For your own social media and also for your business, if all you're doing is just shilling your expertise or your product, you're kind of doing social media wrong - Franco

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Timestamps:?

[6:21] Are rising interest rates going to negatively affect office real estate?

[6:58] Rising interest rates are one of the main issues facing the property industry today.

[8:18] Interest rates have been low for a long time, why are they causing an issue now?

[11:23] How the cost of debt impacts business plans in real estate.

[15:18] Is the capital out there capable of offsetting the cost of debt?

[16:52] The lenders appetite for loans in office buildings.

[19:57] How the capital stack of the real estate business is going to evolve.

[23:28] The effect of a long lease on the valuation of a building.

[26:15] Can the current financial climate benefit the office market?

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Resources:

  1. It Takes a Village to Create a Flexible Office, Propmodo 2021
  2. What Will the Fed’s Response to Inflation do to the Office Market? Propmodo 2022
  3. Is it Time to Rethink How Commercial Real Estate is Valued? Sam Gamble

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Shoutouts:?

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About Franco Faraudo:

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Franco Faraudo, Cofounder & Editor Propmodo

Franco Faraudo has an MBA in entrepreneurship and has worked with a wide spectrum of technology and real estate organisations on their branding and content strategy. He has worked in real estate as an agent, manager, and investor. He writes about the intersection between the physical and digital world and is Co-founder and Editor of Propmodo.

Connect with Franco on Twitter

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Headline Sponsor: TSK

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TSK publish weekly thought leadership, research and content featuring their team, clients and partners about workplace, commercial interiors, hybrid working and how others have prospered from investing in workplace. You can check their latest publications and video content in the show notes by signing up to their weekly?‘work made better’ newsletter?or visit?tskgroup.co.uk.

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Pontus Kihlman

M.Sc. (Eng) | Business Developer | Built Environment Generalist | Communications & Relations | Market Development & Growth | Workplace Strategy & Advisory, Culture & Change | Speaker & Edutainer | Worklife Philosopher

2 年

Controversial opinion, straight out of ????sauna: "Dishwashers make for great cabinet space - and every household should have two of them". It will save you both time and space: One for dirty, one for clean. Eliminate the logistical phase of emptying the dishwasher to put stuff up, and the extra cabinet space for intermittent storing. Go lean. Just move dishes between table and washer. That's it. Simple. (Also, with rising inflation, they now will keep their value better as fixed assets???)

James Lass

Operational real estate and value add investing at Swiss Life Asset Managers UK

2 年

Great episode Caleb Parker. Highlighted to me the opportunities for nimble investors to take advantage over the next part of the cycle as asset prices depress and the valuers/lenders get to grips with #spaceasaservice. My take is that they understand well granular, operational income in hotels, self storage etc so no reason why offices will be any different once stabilised NOI evidence is there

Chris Robinson

Executive Director - Property Underwriting Group at Wells Fargo Bank N.A.

2 年

Thanks Caleb Parker Always an interesting and engaging listen and truly a question which we as lenders should be thinking very hard about........to which I'm sure the answer is yes, no and maybe. The devil is in the detail as always!

Joanna Turner

Head of Property Research at Canada Life Asset Management

2 年

The sounds a great episode. I’ll be sure to check it out!

Chris Early

Delivering change in real estate - Challenging established thinking - Flex space and Proptech enthusiast - Radio networks enabler - Portfolio and workplace transformer

2 年

I know you’ll agree, but one way to make it a better investment is to deliver a far fuller service within it. This means buildings with great amenities, flex space options and shared spaces, as well of course as great connectivity - both in and around the building (this means not just coverage but also capacity and resilience for both voice and data).

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