Nick Cave slams A.I. in angry letter
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, pixelart (AI generated)

Nick Cave slams A.I. in angry letter

I never thought I'd write this sentence, but here is no two ways about it : Nick Cave hates generative A.I.

He even wrote an angry letter about it!

His letter, in response to a fan who sent him an A.I. generated song "in the style of Nick Cave", speaks for itself. But before letting your read it, allow me to share just a few of my thoughts :

Plato and Socrates considered creativity to be the result of divine inspiration, coming to us when the Muses send us into a temporary state of madness.

Aristotle considered creativity to be a gift coming to us directly from the gods.

Is it any wonder then, that our creative class should resists the rise of A.I. technology and its infringement on their creative process?

For tech insiders it may be tempting to laugh in the face reactions like that of Nick Cave - but I think that they come from a deeply human place, and raise questions that all of us most answer for ourselves, sooner or later.

I'd be curious to hear your thoughts about this - so read Nick's letter below, and let's discuss in the comments!


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A.I. generated pixel art portrait of Nick Cave. Don't worry : it arose out of suffering!


Nick Cave's Letter Against Generative A.I.

( published without any edits on my part )

Dear Mark,

Since its launch in November last year many people, most buzzing with a kind of algorithmic awe, have sent me songs ‘in the style of Nick Cave’ created by ChatGPT.

There have been dozens of them.

Suffice to say, I do not feel the same enthusiasm around this technology. I understand that ChatGPT is in its infancy but perhaps that is the emerging horror of AI – that it will forever be in its infancy, as it will always have further to go, and the direction is always forward, always faster. It can never be rolled back, or slowed down, as it moves us toward a utopian future, maybe, or our total destruction. Who can possibly say which? Judging by this song ‘in the style of Nick Cave’ though, it doesn’t look good, Mark. The apocalypse is well on its way. This song sucks.

What ChatGPT is, in this instance, is replication as travesty. ChatGPT may be able to write a speech or an essay or a sermon or an obituary but it cannot create a genuine song. It could perhaps in time create a song that is, on the surface, indistinguishable from an original, but it will always be a replication, a kind of burlesque.

Songs arise out of suffering, by which I mean they are predicated upon the complex, internal human struggle of creation and, well, as far as I know, algorithms don’t feel. Data doesn’t suffer. ChatGPT has no inner being, it has been nowhere, it has endured nothing, it has not had the audacity to reach beyond its limitations, and hence it doesn’t have the capacity for a shared transcendent experience, as it has no limitations from which to transcend. ChatGPT’s melancholy role is that it is destined to imitate and can never have an authentic human experience, no matter how devalued and inconsequential the human experience may in time become.

What makes a great song great is not its close resemblance to a recognizable work. Writing a good song is not mimicry, or replication, or pastiche, it is the opposite. It is an act of self-murder that destroys all one has strived to produce in the past. It is those dangerous, heart-stopping departures that catapult the artist beyond the limits of what he or she recognises as their known self. This is part of the authentic creative struggle that precedes the invention of a unique lyric of actual value; it is the breathless confrontation with one’s vulnerability, one’s perilousness, one’s smallness, pitted against a sense of sudden shocking discovery; it is the redemptive artistic act that stirs the heart of the listener, where the listener recognizes in the inner workings of the song their own blood, their own struggle, their own suffering. This is what we humble humans can offer, that AI can only mimic, the transcendent journey of the artist that forever grapples with his or her own shortcomings. This is where human genius resides, deeply embedded within, yet reaching beyond, those limitations.

It may sound like I’m taking all this a little too personally, but I’m a songwriter who is engaged, at this very moment, in the process of songwriting. It’s a blood and guts business, here at my desk, that requires something of me to initiate the new and fresh idea. It requires my humanness. What that new idea is, I don’t know, but it is out there somewhere, searching for me. In time, we will find each other.

Mark, thanks for the song, but with all the love and respect in the world, this song is bullshit, a grotesque mockery of what it is to be human, and, well, I don’t much like it — although, hang on!, rereading it, there is a line in there that speaks to me —

‘I’ve got the fire of hell in my eyes’

— says the song ‘in the style of Nick Cave’, and that’s kind of true. I have got the fire of hell in my eyes – and it’s ChatGPT.

Love, Nick

That's it, I'm all out of coffee! See you next time!


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"I don’t much like it — although, hang on!, rereading it, there is a line in there that speaks to me — ‘I’ve got the fire of hell in my eyes’" ?? . A difficult question that arises from AI generated art, -- be it in music, photography or anything else --, when would you call something a copy / imitation from the original creator?

?? Christopher SKENE

Head of Magic @ Aurabox | Cloud-based medical imaging collaboration platform

2 年

I certainly feel like I’m suffering every time I’m forced to endure one of Nick Cave’s songs, so perhaps he’s got a point.

Dr. Tristan Behrens

AI Engineer | Deep Learning | Large Language Models | Agents | Computational Music | Art | PhD in Computer Science

2 年

This is now a crucial point for creative AI. It is very visible and, of course, accessible. Truth be told... I believe that AI generated lyrics and human written lyrics are on the same level when it comes to generating emotions in the listeners. For some time now, we should not tell beforehand that it is AI ?? And it is also an open secret that a lot of successful artists use more than just their imagination to come up with creative artifacts. They are just not so verbose about it.

Thibaut Briere

Cofounder, Glorious | Tech & Eldercare

2 年

"data doesn't suffer" ??

Jean-Paul Paoli

Mind on AI, Heart with Humans, Hands on Business. GenAI @ L'Oréal - AI Top Voice Jan 24

2 年

So agreeing … my way to put it : ??Mozart didn’t do pattern matching of Bach??. Nick adds the suffering part ;)

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