Must we follow heat pump instructions?

Must we follow heat pump instructions?

Do we need to follow ALL the instructions when it comes to R290 heat pumps?


R290 (propane) is fun stuff. It's heavier than air. There's a very good reason that LPG (propane) cars aren't allowed in underground car parks or the lower decks of ferries. Korean YouTube explains all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9H45wmBlf0

(and that's just combustion rather than detonation of a fuel air mix)


Some heat pumps use R290. They include instructions on "protective zones" around the heat pump where there musn't be source of ignition (fair enough) or indeed windows/doors that might allow R290 inside a building.

This seems a little excessive given that you're allowed to pipe unlimited quantities of R50 (methane) into a house controlled by little more than a human controlled mechancial valve; and you're allowed to store 30 kg of R290 inside your house in two 15 kg cylinders; and you can have as many aerosols with R290/R600 (butane) in your house as you like; with an LPG fuelled vehicle parked in the garage.


If it's deemed safe enough to pipe natural gas into a house or store are much propane inside the house as you like (as long as it is little tins); it seems a little excessive to require heat pumps be located such that extra R290 really can't get inside the building.

Fair enough if you have a basement. Although legal to fill that with methane/propane/butane it would definitely be dumb. Perhaps fair enough if the heat pump is above a window and it could conceiveably leak a material quantity of R290 into the house if you speared a hole through the evaporator.

But restricting placement next to ground floor doors? This doesn't feel in the slightest bit proportionate given the volumes involved.


1) Where do these instructions come from? (is there a standardised risk assessement that the manufaturers are copy pasting from that's worth reading?)

2) Do we actually have to follow these? The MCS process appears to allow deviation from manufacturer instructions where justified. Has one every heard of "sorry; that clearance requirement is excessive for properties without a basement; at least until such a time as natural gas supplied are banned alongside aerosols with hydrocarbon propellants..." or words to this effect being presented?


I ask because, as one of many with a pish piddly little terrace house (6 metres wide) one can't actually put an R290 heat pump at the front or rear of the house thanks to these (3.1 metre width) clearance requirements.

The option to overrule these, citing far greater idiocy that's clearly still considered an acceptable risk by the gas industry, would be useful.


Adam Chapman Brendon Uys TMIET Graham Hendra Damon Blakemore et al - I iamgine you must have asked this question of the vendors at some point?


Pertinent excerpts from MIS3005 below:

Note the "should" in 5.3.1 here - this isn't mandatory if reasonable justirication can be given - and is key to R290 by the back door.

Note also the arrogance of clause 5.3.2 - what the authors of the MCS standard state is deemed true without any proof; whereas doing what the manufacturer requires needs proof of performance/safety/durability.


in the installation in italy the samsung tecnician who came to control the installation now requires 6 meters distance from the ignition sources. Is he ( https://www.dhirubhai.net/in/salvatore-belfiore-641b87163? ) right? Or just misunderstands the italian? In English this part talks about broken/leaking equpment (keep 6 meters distance until the certified tecnician comes and solves the problem). In the official manual the safe distances are 1 meter, same as between the external units installed next to each other.

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James Walley CEng MICE

Senior Civil Engineer at Arup

7 个月

Came across this... I imagine I know the answer, but I've got a "perfect" location for a heatpump monoblock, but the issue is that directly behind it is a ground level window into a damp undercroft, under a kitchen extension, that is used as a potting shed and garden storage. I'm guessing this would be a non-starter according to the current regs...

Stuart Hawthorn

Area Sales Manager for Electrified Solutions, Scotland - Worcester Bosch

1 年

I have a heat pump tumble dryer in my kitchen - the refrigerant? R290… Go figure!

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Joshua Graves DipNEBOSH

(EngTech MIGEM, TMInstR). SSOW Assurance Manager.

1 年

R290 is propane but it is deodorised. Unlike regular methane or propane that is Oderised with Ethyl Mercapten so that it is pungent and detectable. This means in the event of a leak you won’t smell it making distances even more critical. I

Graham Hendra

Heat pump product development engineer. Author of heat pump text books. Heat pump builder.

1 年

Do the same rules apply to my deodorant can? Best to be safe.

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