“Meet the Founder”-- Yup
For BitRock Capital's latest “Meet the Founder” episode, we sat down with Yup founder Donny Zhang. An ex-overseas business CEO of 360 DigiTech (NDAQ: QFIN), Donny spoke of his journey that took him from the peaks of climbing the corporate ladder, to creating Southeast Asia’s first credit-based neo bank.
Q. What was your career before founding Yup?
Donny: I started out with Accenture, consulting on overseas market entry strategies for companies based in China and elsewhere. After more than four years, I decided to make the move into venture capital by joining the VC arm of 360, China's leading internet security provider.
That was where I got my first taste for entrepreneurship. In my 3.5 years at 360, I handled fintech investments globally and got the chance to meet with startups in Fintech and finance services, across China, Southeast Asia and South America. At the same time, I helped 360 launch its own financial services business and bring the company to a Nasdaq listing. That was a pretty pivotal moment for my career.
In late 2017, I went on to build my first startup - MEETUR Finance. The platform was designed as a marketplace for fintech companies to drive customer acquisition in the Philippines, Vietnam, and Indonesia. The company was then sold to 360 DigiTech, the digital consumer finance arm of 360 Group, in early 2019. At that point, I became the overseas business CEO for 360 DigiTech, where I was based in Indonesia.
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Q. What was the idea that spurred you into founding Yup?
Donny: In 2015, Southeast Asia's fintech market was still very nascent. Fast forward three years and the first batch of startups entered through the lending business. But it wasn't a healthy or sustainable market - those startups were typically doing cash loans or payday loan businesses which were charging interest rates 20 times higher than banks. Borrowers also didn't have to be transparent about why they needed the cash.
Me and my co-founder Matt are do believe that young people are worth accessing much more healthy financial services such as credit cards and other credit payment products to support their daily purchases and consumption from the industry without any pressure of been charging high interest. And that's a reason we found Yup.
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Q. Tell us a bit more about Yup
Donny: Yup is a personal credit-based challenger bank. Founded in 2021, it operates an e-wallet app plus credit card, and provides a credit line to support its customers' daily expenses. ?where it currently has about 1.5 million customers. We're targeting over 60 million users in Indonesia and over 100 million across Southeast Asia in the next four to five years.
Yup offers a 40-day grace period (0%,0 fee) and a much lower fee rate of installment services (rates are in line with banks). It also generates merchant income per card transactions and QR transactions, as well as commissions from in-app services, such as bill-top up, cross-selling insurance products and other personal financial services.?
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Q. What do you have planned for Yup's future business milestones?
Donny: We'll start expanding the company in the Philippines and Vietnam next year and have already begun obtaining the relevant licenses. We also plan to issue a Visa card at the beginning of next year to support user payments globally. We're currently building out a new feature for deposits by cooperating with banks so that users can enjoy receiving daily interest from our saving services (of about 4%-5% annually).
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Q. That's quite a lot in the pipeline! How would you describe your highlights so far?
Donny: I'm proud of having built Southeast Asia's first challenger bank with credit payment services. Yup is still the largest business in Indonesia that manages personal credit and all related card features.
I'm also proud to say that Yup is a local Southeast Asian business. Of its 150 employees, over 80% are from local. I think it's important to have a diverse team with multiple cultures if you want to build a global business.
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Q. What have been the main obstacles?
Donny: When running a startup, you face challenges every day. But I'm also grateful for myself and my team, given our previous experience in running fintech businesses in Southeast Asia. We were well prepared in that regard when launching Yup.
Fundraising is always challenging but we've managed to succeed so far. We've done four rounds and raised USD 60m in total from investors in the US and SEA. We also plan to open a new round, our Series B, early next year.
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Q. How do your investors engage with you?
Donny: We are very lucky to have our investors and their resources. BitRock Capital is highly experienced in the financial services sector, with banking veteran John Peng as their founding partner. We also have an Indonesian family investor which owns a banking business and can introduce us to their network. XVC is another backer - they can help us build connections with international banks and potential investors in the US and Europe, thanks to their relations with US family offices and endowments. Hong Kong's MindWorks Ventures has solid ties to very strong financial institutions in SEA, which also comes in handy for potential funding capital. We also got great support from Sky9 Capital and SWC which are very strong in the region.