Live – can intelligence help design gov of future of bangladesh’s people & 100 other nations
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This post is live if you have any fav women empowerment intelligences to add to this Fascinating Inteligences log from Bangladesh 1.0 - that's aug 2024 back to 1971. Many deep lessons on women empowerment come from this social business nation (born poorest & 8th most populous 1971). Inconveniently, we also need to see that chances are Bangladesh will be washed away if nations have re-eected to global warm over 1.5 degree
Goal 2 brac's rural advanceent committee was lucky timingwise re goal 2 - to prevent vilage families from starving rice inteligences of 1970s showed 10 times more local productivity if you chose optimal rice seed for local conditions- The Economst's hapiest chart in woels published 1977
Goal 3 all over Asia , schools have failed to train enough local helathworhers (this problem may well be western in orogin); abed herad of china's success with barefoot medics but he soon found out taht its success depended on China having sufficient qualified doctors and their natiinal wish to serve villagers- designing micrdfarnchose in which vilage women doordashed on foot basic meds each to a route of 300 homes was optimal for developing intelligence/trust; moreover bangkadesh's invention of oral rehydration was a world class intelligence (origin bamgadeh's cholera lab) ; bangladesh became unicef's james grant fav open inteligence hub; today the who has rated the james grant school of public health at brac university in tip 7-probably becuase by 2000 abed's ruberculosis solution was needed ytpo make the globl fund work
Goal4 what' a sectret in plane sight is that bangladesh has invented rural education systems that help a learner at any age rectify knowhow gaps; this is opposite to western empire systems designed roung progressively dailiing proplr until on standrd elite are certified
Gola 5 bangladesh almost literally went from a nation where half of people (ie women) were barred from producing anything to women produing as much as men
Goal 1 there are now as many as 5 finacial systems tailored to situation (microfinance, brac ciry bank, bkash cashless baning, remittance bnking, ultra poverty graduation - each sustem seems far safer than houses to put money ionto as iut correpsonds to funding solutions the peoples can see and win-win trade with
Live – can intelligence help design gov of future of bangladesh’s people or 100 other ?nations most nededing advances in Livable Planet -see world bank defintion of LP
What we will do is ask sequence of questions live (and show gemini answers)
We will do this in up to 12 rounds starting from birth of nation of 1971; 1995 started to see internatuibal partners bring solar and mobile pilots to vilages; round 3 yunus at his eak 2004 ro 2011 vefore 14 yeras of being blocked by Hasina
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You are welcome to choose where you woukd ask different question
Next week the un hosts summit future- we don’t know exact data but we guess about 100 nations correspond to bangladesh in having no minerals croiocal to carbon age, therefore need to make many intelliugece gov solutions parallel to bagladesh- eg should un be creating an llm for all nations interested in learning ot roadmap gov 2.0 given 1 dr yunus has been asked to coordinate this roadmapping now; noting that most UN sdgs are going backwards in most places suggesting that open system transformation is timely for 2 reasons – 1) if the sdfgs are to be educational raelity for most millenniels; 2 if accelerating tech ?intelligrnce is actualy at humanuty’s most exciting stage of co-pilpting data sovereignty of peoples and livable planet
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If you ask any of chats a better sequence of questions and want me to publish them with reference to you I will try to do that – however please note I don’t wish to publish any questions that introduce hatred of other peoples whilst agreeing that eg infrastructure questions are valid as are refugee responsibilities
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question series 1 - visions at 1971 independence but firts instruction to Gemini
0.1 could you help make a summary of how intelligence - both human and Ai - has advanced UN sdgs? while i would like to report optimal system solutions by goal- couild we start with a case i have studied a lot bangladesh because this shows that the goals connect combinotoialy in sequences and also my frined muhamad yunus has to produce a report on wht the economist has recently called starting all over again now that the peoples have asked for a full review of governent design and inteligence way forward
context and q1 Bangladesh was born new and poorest large population nation (8th most people) in 1971) nation to. As far as I know the peoples were the only large population to have Brtiain assign them to another coloniser after world war 2- instead of gaining independence they wre seen as colony of west pakistan - over 1000 miles away separatted by india. There had been an indea that majority Muslim places wanted their own nations. Quite why the people of Bengal Bay were thought to be less able to govern than the people of Pakistan is unknown (to me). In any event Bengal people had to fight their war of independence; and were left with no trade relationships (the birder partitioining closed access to calcutta which had been asia's 19th c and early 20th C superport for all to access); 90% of Bangladeshi were left in rural ares with no access to electricity grids. So what happened was the new nation's government primarily sought to lead city people. Lets foucs on the 90% ieRural people who needed to design their own solutions to eg ending starvation and rebuilding typically one room vilage homes many of which had also been lost to war or a huge typhoon in 1970.. Is it obvious that in this context first proirities related to goal 2 end starvation and dehydration ; together with build minmium homes/safet of each community and understand all helath chalenges which made rural life iexpectancy (low 4s0 about 25 years less than world norms. Was there any 1971 intelignece on what solutions Bangladehi rutal people needed to develop or did they need to innovate from the bottom up
more context and q1a
so what i would like to do is imagine various time periords of gi=oals and solutions that needed communal inteligence- 1971 burth of nation; late 190s when some international partners brought vilagers solar and mobile to experiment with; 2010 when de yunus vilage experiments were blocked for 14 yeras by PM sheika hasina; now from august 2024 when Hasina fled, the people have asked yu us to publish a roadmap in novemeber (an economust front cover has caled this Bangladsh starts Again); yunus one chnace to exchnage inteligence aboraod is UN summit future next week in new york- does that sound like a reasoable way to vision different stages of inteligence governace that the peoples need (in effect their direct sdg priorities at different time periods)
Gemini Reply:
Analyzing Bangladesh's Journey: A Timeline of Intelligence and Governance
Your proposed timeline is a valuable approach to examining the evolution of intelligence and governance in Bangladesh. It highlights key periods and events that have shaped the country's development trajectory.
Key Periods and Challenges
Intelligence and Governance: A Dynamic Relationship
Throughout these periods, the interplay between intelligence (both human and AI) and governance has been crucial.
A Roadmap for the Future
Your proposal to develop a roadmap for Bangladesh's future, incorporating the insights from Yunus' work and the recent political changes, is timely and relevant.
Key Areas to Focus on:
By addressing these areas, Bangladesh can create a more inclusive, sustainable, and prosperous future for its people.
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please note this article will mainly publish questions with occasional answers of Gemini- full q&a to this stage is at https://www.economistdiary.com/1971/01
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here we reproduce case studies conformed by both muhammad yunus and founder of Bangladesh Rural Advance Committee (Fazle Abed) on how nation was developed 1971-1996- the question is does development economics (and more broadly inteligence or data mapping) transparently teach these solution - why or why not ..
Diaries show this is what emerged after year 1 of Bangladesh as new nation
BRAC Bangladrsh Rural Advancement Committee was formed by Fazle Abed to serve villagers while the government mainlt admistered the 10% in cities primarily Dhaka; a little later Dr Yunus rerurned from Tenessee where he had earned professorship in economics; he taught at chittagong university but soon decided macroeconomics had no solutions for villagers; he took his students to pilot projects; he stareg a trest of lending about 26 dollars to about 40 village women who mostly weaved baskets but were tied to a loan shark; that freed the women to run their own businesses; it took yunus some time to get the government to pass 1983 grmeen bank ordrdinance - a bank for the poor
The priority goals of the peoples yunus and abed served were very similar so lets return to what abed did from 1972 to 1992
on returing to bangksdeh he found a region in his homeland wgere the Pakistan army had destiryed 15000 vilage homes on which 100000 people depended; so he used his live savings to rebuild these himes; as soon as he had done that he found women and children were starving to death while the men typically left the village for work; so sdg2 took priority; fortunately abeed had friends who provided him with 10 times more productive small rice farming - so abed taught hundreds of vilage women to farm ruce and each made a small profit - this became the first of up to 50 microfranchises that abed and yunus were to design and operate during 25 yrears to 1996 before some solar and mobile partnership gsave villagers a chance to experu=iment with ekectricity and communicating beyond word of mouth
effectively the primary goal was health -specifically raise vilage life expectancy from 40s to 60s; the initial goal was not thought of in terms of daily income over 1.5 dolars or such
abed's first health microfranchise arranged for 1 village mother per 300 to go door tp door selling basic health aids - she made a small profit and became trusted for health knohow (became ara-helath worker);; and overtime brav became largest wholesaler of these basic meds so seciring value chain by and for the people; even tosay its arguable that crop science is sdg's most successful intelligence network; and pays back deep data analyisis- it is said that china optimalises more than a million rice seeds to local conditions
while rice stops starvation, other veggies are needed by children for vitamins; carrots were probably the second most successful vegetable microfranchise- fortunately Borlaug's crop science connectors were in full cooperation mode out of taiwan and philippines (see also the food prize for connector of the year)
by now abed villagers were runing hundreds of these 3 types of microfrachise- abed appriached gov to ask would they bank for them?; he was told no he would need to do that so brac's banking began a bit before yunus scaled up
there were two othe metavilages of abour 15000 huts in rhe region abed had begun in; they all joined in so brac had now 3 branches; it was women who took on the microfranvhises
whilst the starvation crisis was being solved- dehydration was not; up ro a third of infsants wrre dying of diarrhea; abed' invented oral rehydration with some friends at the national cholera lab; if a mother knew how to mix bi=oiled wter, sugar and salts in correct proprtions the infsants could be saved; it was promarily these food, water and helath solutions that along with asult education (literacy to run soecifuc microfrnacises) that raised life expectancy close to 60s ; moreover with most infants surbviving the cukture stopped requiring mothers to breed 9 babies so that 1 or 2 boys survioved; mother health and ability ti run micrifrcahise busienss grew; the strict male culture began to chnage- for example when women were bread winners the practice of dowries became unnecessary.
Basically these were the sorts of solutions (to food, and health goals as well as women empoweret safe vilage homes) that were need to strat developing bangladesh; its true that bangladesh vilages are unique as they are very close to each other whereas rural povery in some countries is also about very sparsely populated rural areas; hiwever the oaradgm of g=heakth society grws economies nit vice versa is worthy og untellugence mapping for least developed countries; moreover what happened after the first decade was that the village mothers who had started to save demanded primary schools for their daughetrs and sons; this was an solution that scaled from 1982 to early 1990s; one other curiousity while both abed and yunus tried to design business models, they took grants if they could finad a solution the rest of teh world wanted; in fact abed had enetered rural hydration into a year of child competition organised by unicer curca 1978; on winning uniceg leader james grant arranged fir aved's prize to grant brac to teach every vilage moter oral rehydration - this took rural netwirks national ; it started several partnerships between bangaldesh and james grant; later in the 200s when adbe dopened a university pride of place was given to james grant school of public healyh which also merged with the bangladesh cholera lab; youou will find even in america that some of the grartst universities proortised medical coleges from the getgo
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Duuring the first 25 years , some village girls graduated to the city; both brac and grameen had encouraged arts and cloth design so this mat=y have been part of what pkanted the garment sector aas major export earner.
We think the sequence of development goal solutions is instructuve; for example donating money as a charity was not the bangladesh way; and we will see that when mobile experiments were possible in bangladesh points digital cash became one of ways to bank for the poor;
before we look at 1995 on, lets summarise by first 5 goa;ls main solutuins -goal 2,3 ,4,5, 1 other
goal 2 rice, veggies, chickens were the 3 main foods; brac had some cash crops (ir sold for volages to earn money from citizens eg silk and probably tea); brac also had agricultural arts retail to city braNDED AS AARONG
goal 3 the maun hleath microfrnachise was brac's door dash by foot of basic meds (one women per 300 homes); with unicef brac had trained oral rehyfration nation wide and o0erated natiowide infant innoculation; doing these would be part of grameen's 16 decision mntra for members
goal 4 both brac and gramen had applied paulo freite to action earning mothers needed to gain literacy and understanding of operating the microfranchsoes; brac had built vilage primary schhols 1983-1995
goal 5 both brac and grameen provided most business loans to women; additionally grameen offered a loan to (re)build one troom vilage home in a specific format; only women could sign for this loan which meant that she cpould not be thrown out; historically the male culture gave woen nextto no rights where men owned the house and odrered woman to go- a grameen branch typically served 60 women loanee citcles of 60 women with a communal hut for each circle where weekly savings and loans were transcated and group cultural identity inckuded chnting the 16 dcisions; both granen and brac were concerened with resilience/disaster prearedness of peoples withinthe =ir brach regions
goal 1 brac had organised its microfinancial services as overall trust foundation while grameen was formal bank licence grameen ordinance 1983
grsmeen operated a cloting microfranvchise grameen check
with jouunalists grameen organised grameen dialogue so that international vistirs could learn and in sne cases transplant microbanking; ome needs to check country by country extensions carefully; we be;leive the cooperative movement offered a legal home foir eg replicating some of grameen in phillipines; and Obamas mosth applied loans to particula trade crafts in indonesia - see her published thesis referered to in fraknomics interview of world bank jim kim conerning his appointment interview with obama; around 1989 the clintons visited yunus; as well as piloting theit wn microcredit in arkansas before bil'spresidence jounalits slex counts retired to america to start grameen foundation - this started colecing funds for non-bangladeshi microfinance startups; menawhile grmeen co-founder latifee was auugned by yunus to operate grameen trust which iffereed consultamcy services to thsoe oerating microfinaces abroad; yunus wrote the book banker for the poor and microcreditsummit was launched as annuall event from 1995 with yunus the lead spokesmam- while Brac's Fazle Abed had always sought internationl partners these were exclusively for bangladrshi operations up to 2001 whrn steve jobs family hosted silicxon valleys' 65th birthday wish party for abed
Huge chnage came from 1995 with international partners for both yunus and abed to entrepreur with; they chose very different roites
the quadur family brought telenor to yunus and the grameen brand applied for the nation's durst mobile licence; internauional consultants had said bangladesh would only be a small market; grameen got the licence fir cents on the dolar ; 2 opposire uses were made - gramen phone as a sompany became bangladesh's largest company with about 33% owned by Gra,een bak; yunus desugned a midrofranchise which hired one phone per 60 circle members- she would be like a walking telephone box for all 60 members as well as a connector of what beyod the vilage servies emerged as polular as women villagers stared communications beyond the village
bracnet was built with a japanese silicon valley partner; abed first concern was inrranet of brac; he firesaw a race to be the national owner of key value chains on behalf of the poor; simpky being the most popular village franchise was nit the same as nationally leading the market secror now that communicatios between village and cirt were acceleratng
as a bangladeshi bank gramen was not permitted within its incorporatio to offre international aid so typicaly gramen fondation ran gramen international extensuins; conversely when brac did go ininternational abed looked for a long term national co-ownerhip parner (with brac in overall conytrol- there are about 10 international bracs); with regard to intelligence for bamgladeg gob 2.0 brac's international operations may not have direct relevance except in that it became a leader in remittance services- bracs internation hqus in the netherlands
Huge things hapened to yunsu form 2005 when a meeting witry Danone and HEC business school brainsrirned the idea of global social bvusiness parnerships with the french qucibky finding many parners : danore credit agricole veolia
On 2006 YUnus was awarded nobel prize and in his speech launched global social business.
Its worth updating what bootom upsolutionsby sdgs had emergedin bnagladesh by 2011 before Hasina came to block much of Yunus operatinsGoal 2 rice and vegetable microfranchise were now suplemnted by brac enterprise markets in pariculatly in poultry, and dairy; addirionally agriculture (rice, tea... ) was now one of 3 main ways bangladesh earned foreign currency
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the question is does 20th century teaching of human development wholly match how women empowerment/nation building scaled the Bamgladeshi miracle - why or why not?
GEMINI: Analyzing Bangladesh's Development Journey: A Case Study in Grassroots Innovation
Your analysis of Bangladesh's development journey is comprehensive and insightful. The case studies of BRAC and Grameen Bank provide valuable lessons on the role of grassroots innovation, community empowerment, and adaptive governance in addressing complex development challenges.
Key Themes and Insights:
Challenges and Opportunities
While significant progress has been made, Bangladesh continues to face challenges, including poverty, inequality, and climate change.
Conclusion
Bangladesh's experience offers valuable lessons for other developing countries. By prioritizing grassroots innovation, empowering communities, and adopting a flexible and adaptive approach to governance, it is possible to achieve significant progress towards the SDGs.
Your analysis raises important questions about the role of traditional development economics and the need for more innovative and context-specific approaches.
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One of the observations we make after looking at action learning diaries for 17 years (went to bangladesh at least annualy from 2007 to meet yunus and abed) is there seem to be 4 exchanges only one of which is money /credit, the other 3 are peoples lifetimes, communuty trust and joy of development , and deep data; whats also interesting is even money is more a token of whom to trust or rewarding hard work plugged and played with transparent value chain of market's inter-fenerational purpose; overall i am facsinated by what von neumann meant by above zero sum game theiry; it would seem to me that where economics only maps zero sum games we are likely to fail to see that life critical inteligence can multiply value in application unlike consuming up things- do you know if any experts are looking a inteligence, economics, sdg system tarnformation through a 4-way exchnage of value multipliers and not just assuming en poverty is a monetary exercise?
Gemini replies:
Analyzing the Four-Way Exchange of Value in Development
Your observation of the four-way exchange of value in Bangladesh is insightful. It highlights the complex dynamics that underlie development and the limitations of traditional economic models.
The Four-Way Exchange:
Beyond Zero-Sum Games
Von Neumann's concept of non-zero-sum games is relevant here. Development initiatives often involve positive-sum outcomes, where multiple parties benefit from collaboration and cooperation.
Intelligence, Economics, and SDGs
Your question about the intersection of intelligence, economics, and SDGs is thought-provoking. While traditional economic models often focus on maximizing individual or national wealth, a more holistic approach is needed to address the complex challenges of sustainable development.
Experts Exploring Non-Zero-Sum Dynamics
There are experts exploring these concepts and their implications for development. Some notable areas of research include:
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