Learning a new way

Learning a new way

I was in my mid twenties when I “learned to sell”. I had left school at 16, flitted from job to job with no attempt at building anything of substance and it took me several years to eventually wake up to the need to grow up and cultivate a career. I leaned on nepotism and asked my father to get me an interview with the local Xerox office in Aberdeen, for whom he was a senior engineer. I was given the most fleeting of interviews before being handed the keys to my company Renault Laguna and told what my patch was. My sales journey had begun in earnest.

One of the first things a new Xerox sales rep was tasked with was surviving training at Wokefield Park near Reading. This short period of brainwashing was designed to remove any bad habits you had previously employed and turn you into a “Xeroid”. Team bonding was highly encouraged, which generally involved drinking in the bar until the sun came up and still being bright and bushy tailed for the training day ahead. Feedback we received was that it was generally accepted that the Scottish folk excelled in this section of the training……

The training was all about structure. Cold calling had a structure, as had first meetings, as had negotiations, close meetings, etc. Everything was “when you say this, they will say that, so you then say this”. It was an eye opener, I can tell you. One of the keystones of the whole sales cycle was when to introduce price. It went a bit like this:

1.      Establish discontent with the client’s present supplier or equipment

2.      Empathise with their discontent and provoke them into saying it angers or annoys them

3.      Ask what effect this poor performance has on their business

4.      Introduce the Xerox solution and explain why it would solve each area of concern

5.      Ask what effect they think this new glorious plan will have on their business

6.      And all these features, advantages and benefits for only £x

And this worked. All the time. It worked for years and in some cases, iterations of the same process still work now, because it’s simple and when you are in one of these conversations, it all makes perfect sense. However, to truly make this structure work, there’s an investment of time and money into the present situation and proposed solution. Is this an investment we can still afford to make?

Should we make a change?

My present role is to help businesses grow through the use of IT. We provide hardware, software, support, comms, telephony, etc. Very few situations we enter into are as simple as “my copier keeps jamming”. To be able to provide a solution to a prospective client’s IT related woes, we have to spend a day, maybe two or three, visiting their premises, installing monitoring software, liaising with suppliers, producing proposals, etc. This costs money. Lots of it. And not many prospective clients are keen to part with their cash for us to compile a proposal asking for even more of that cash! So we do all this costly work and at the end of the ten page proposal, we produce the cost from our top hat and the client says “but that’s three times more than I’m paying now”……

One thing that appears to be coming more prevalent in this industry is quoting costs up front, before any investigatory work takes place. I pretty much know how much a monthly contract is going to be if I know how many servers and desktops we will be asked to support and this now leads to a structure like:

1.      Establish the equipment that needs looked after

2.      Quote an approx. price and ask if this is within budget

3.      If not, end the meeting and don’t waste anyone’s time. If so, continue to investigate

After a couple of decades (I know, I look so young, right?!?!) of doing things the Xerox way, I’m now using the price up front method more and more. Whilst I’m doing less proposals, I’m closing the same amount of business, maybe a touch more. I initially found the up front pricing strategy cold and abrupt, but now believe it to be respectful. If I sit in hours of meetings with a prospective client and spend even more hours producing a proposal to just be told, “Oh, you are much more expensive than I can afford”, I’ve wasted my time, my engineers time and the prospect’s time. Nobody wins. This new way means that this can’t happen and still allows us to part with people who don’t wish to spend what we’d like, as friends.

I’ve read a lot recently that if you have a robust social media strategy, strong marketing, new content and a fantastic website, you don’t need sales people anymore. I obviously disagree with that, but would say you need sales people who can flex their style dependant on the situation and no longer stick to one overall structure. There is no Business to Business or Business to Consumer, but there is Human to Human and finding the right way to communicate is key to success.

I’d be very keen to hear feedback from anyone who has recently struck upon a new way to communicate with their clients, so please don’t hesitate to comment. Also, if anyone else speaks about price up front, I’d be delighted to hear about successes and challenges they’ve had doing this. And finally, I and the Shackleton Technologies team are always happy to hear from anyone looking for IT advice. Feel free to ask for the price up front or at the end!


....Peter Waggott....

Global Scot. Managing Director @ Training & Coaching Consultancy | Executive Coach, Neurodivergence Coach.

7 年

Nice blog Steve, as long as the customer is the focus then sales is flexible. We have an objective, how we get there can depend on a number of things. Having always sold premium products, I very rarely offered price up front as most customers knew a ball park figure, I concentrated on understanding there business and how their current supplier was doing. However, to weed out the not interested crowd, I did bring pricing into the mix.

Billy Grierson

Helping you think out of the box and act in the box. Experienced facilitator and trainer in problem solving & innovation

7 年

Steve, as promised, here are some references you might want to check out: Ulwick, Anthony W. What Customers Want. New York : McGraw Hill, 2005. Finding the Right Job for Your Product. Christensen, Clayton M., et al. Spring, 2007, MIT Sloan Business Review, pp. 2-11. The Customer-Centred Innovation Map. Bettencourt, Lance A. and Ulwick, Anthony W. May, 2008, Harvard Business Review, pp. 109-114. Enjoy

Billy Grierson

Helping you think out of the box and act in the box. Experienced facilitator and trainer in problem solving & innovation

7 年

Hi Steve, You might want to check out Empathic Design aka Design Thinking or Job-to-be-done. It involves looking at what your customer is trying to do rather than what he wants to buy. I'm not in the office just now, but I'll look out a couple of references tomorrow. In the meantime, you could check out Strategyn. They have some good white papers on their website that give the background.

Alan S. Morrison MBA, CIPR Prof PR Cert, MCIPR Accredited

Helping you achieve goals by influencing people with PR, Copywriting & Photography. Super-connector. ??????????

7 年

Interesting and thought-provoking article Steve. I find even providing an estimate (if possible - PR is more difficult to estimate than photography) can help establish quickly whether the conversation is worth continuing. And being respectful of people's time is better for the relationship long-term and your ROI on time and mileage.

Cameron Taylor

Founder @ Kindling, lead generation on commission ??

7 年

Great article, Steve. Similar boat for myself on the RMM/Backup vendor point, human to human is how we sell and neither myself or my prospects really have any time to waste should we not tick the budget box to begin with. I've found the most success recently with moving away from a regimented sales process into a buyer focused process, it sounds really simple now I've been doing it! Rather than sticking to my sales process of "Do X, then you do X, then they test, then you see if the ROI is there and finally give them pricing" I've focused on asking "How do you buy software? What's the process you follow?" and more often than not the big thing they want to do is tick the budget box. Simply put, I spend more time with the right prospects rather than taking a "one size fits all" approach. It's given me gains in conversion rates, average deal size and less stress.

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