Knowing Why They Said No
Jeff Selingo
Bestselling author | Special Advisor to President, Arizona State U. | College admissions and early career expert | Contributor, The Atlantic | Angel investor | Editor, Next newsletter | Co-host, FutureU podcast
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One question I get often since?Who Gets In and Why?was released last year is why the three colleges where I was embedded for the book let me inside their process. After all, I approached two dozen campuses and all but these three—Emory, Davidson, and the University of Washington—declined my request.
Last week, I got to ask that question—and many others—as I reunited with a few characters and colleges from the book at the annual meeting of the National Association of College Admission Counseling. NACAC, as it is known, represents enrollment deans, admissions officers, high school counselors, and independent counselors.
Yes, we gathered in-person(!)—in Seattle (and online at the same time). It was like 2019 in Louisville, the last time this group was together in real life—although much smaller this time around. It was announced at the opening session that some 3,800 people were there. That’s about 60% percent or so of the number who show up in a normal year depending on the location.
???It was good to be back in person, although the conference presented awkward social moments—do we shake hands, fist bump, or stay six feet away? Thankfully, NACAC provided us nifty buttons to wear to display our preferences.
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Slow Growth at Selective Colleges
If you read this newsletter, you know that?I’ve talked often?about how we often equate a college’s small size with its quality in the U.S. I’ve argued before that given demand and a rising population of people who need to go to college that selective colleges should open their doors wider—even just a bit.
A?new working paper?out this week by the National Bureau of Economic Research, “Why Don’t Elite Colleges Expand Supply?” finds that top colleges care more about prestige as measured against their peers than any other factor when it comes to setting their enrollment numbers.
The chart above in the paper caught my attention: it shows that for colleges in the bottom 25% of SAT selectivity, enrollment increased by 61% between 1990 and 2015. But the four colleges that appear at the top of the annual U.S. News rankings—Harvard, Princeton, Stanford and Yale (HPSY in the chart)—increased their enrollment by only 7% even as their applications skyrocketed.
How Transparent Should Admissions Be?
Holistic admissions is both a blessing and a curse for colleges that practice it, especially this past year in the midst of Covid. A holistic process looks at both academic and non-academic factors in an application, allowing institutions to take a variety of factors into account when evaluating prospective students.
What’s happening:?In a year when nearly every aspect of the college admissions process was upended by the pandemic, holistic review was a savior for admissions offices faced with applications from students who had very different high school experiences because of Covid-19. As a result, the admissions process seemed even murkier than usual this past year.
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Why it matters:?Public trust in institutions reached new lows during the pandemic. Admissions is the front door to college. It’s when much of the public has their first interaction with higher ed and forms those initial perceptions.
?? It was a question I posed last week when I moderated my panel at the annual NACAC meeting: Should colleges do more to own their processes and have comfort with the imperfect and human judgment that?is?the admissions process?
What I heard:?An opaque process=more flexible for colleges.
—If we’re “completely transparent, we lose track of our narrative,”?said Tim Fields, senior associate dean of admissions at Emory University. “We can’t tell the story how we want to tell that story. A lot of that story—the legacy, the history, the reputation of those institutions—is tied to that narrative.”
—Part of the story that colleges like to tell is that they’re selective enough to actually use holistic review.?“Some colleges say they use holistic review when they’re really admitting students who meet a cutoff for GPAs or test scores,” said Paul Seegert, director of admissions at the University of Washington.
—What colleges look for sends a message to students.?If colleges say more will students and their families respond accordingly? “If you’re admitting based on major, do you broadcast that a student who lists classics or French is going to be admitted with a lower academic profile?” Seegert asked.?“Some people might use that to get their foot in the door, but that’s not in their best interest.”
—The contradiction that is often apparent in admissions?is that colleges are very transparent in what students and families need to do when it comes to applying “but not in what happens next,” said Diane Campbell,?the college counselor at Liberty Common High?School in Colorado. “I wish we had more explanations for?why?this is happening. If I’m going to write more essays, how are you going to use them, what do you want to know?”
Bottom line:?“I’ve experimented giving specifics about our admissions process,” Seegert said. “But when you give specifics then someone says ‘But I know someone who…”
My why:?I asked the representatives from Emory and UW the question I led with above—why they let me into the process.
?? Are you a counselor at a high school or represent a parents group in the Los Angeles area??I’ll be there for?speaking engagements?later this month and have an opening or two on the calendar.?Reach out?if you’re interested in learning more.
Until next time, Cheers — Jeff
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3 年Excellent insights as always from Jeff Selingo #highered
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3 年Solid analysis as always Jeff Selingo