Humpty Dumpty on 'Systemic'? work

Humpty Dumpty on 'Systemic' work

I asked some friends and colleagues recently what they meant by “systemic” and was reminded of Humpty Dumpty, in Alice in Wonderland. “When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less." Of course, we can all agree that seeing through a systemic lens reveals patterns of relatedness and interconnections. But there are many kinds of “systemic”. I think this diversity of what we mean by “systemic” is deeply important, little discussed and somewhat problematic…

It seems like progress, that systemic approaches are becoming vogue – but perhaps we should be concerned.

It seems like progress, that systemic approaches are becoming vogue – but perhaps we should be concerned. In the last few years the attention of OD practitioners has turned from coaching, to systemic coaching, and more recently to systemic team coaching. This is worrying because it is actually a distraction from the core issue, which is not whether we coach individuals or teams, or even if we coach systemically. Nor is it about which tools and approaches we use (including Constellations as the flavour of the month). The core issue is, how do we change the ways we think? If we are supporting simplistic solutions with teams instead of with individuals, then whatever our paradigm, nothing really changes.

Gregory Bateson said that we frequently over-estimate our capacity to understand the world around us. We jump quickly to conclusions and make plans that we charge confidently ahead with. Then we get into a muddle. Business is renowned for reducing complexity to the limits of a vision statement and a 4-bullet point strategy – then pressing the ‘fast forward’ button. We coaches, consultants and constellators exacerbate the problem when we encourage clients to make goals and pursue them, without also challenging their underlying habits of thinking… I have seen some coaches, for example, take a client through a constellation without once even gently challenging that client’s stance, perspective or assumptions; without illuminating blindspots, reframing perceptions or offering alternative assessments.

Constellations and other systemic practices do not matter as much as how we use them to challenge habits of thinking

Constellations and other systemic practices do not matter as much as how we use them – and how we use them best is related to exposing and exploring the ways we think. I’m in a peer-learning group at the moment where there is a lot of talk about “empowering our clients” which seems to be code for “don’t challenge them too much”. Nothing is more empowering than truth, yet the pressure to collude rather than contest is seductive.

Paul Lawrence, at The Centre for Coaching in Organisations, codifies five ways of seeing systemically:

  1. Linear: Linear systems thinking is where the coach breaks the organisation down into its constituent parts and sees the relationship between those parts as relatively easy to control. A coach working with this lens approaches the issue like an engineer - focusing mechanistically on improving team dynamics through looking at roles, responsibilities, co-ordination of process and functions, KPIs, and so on… As an example, there might be an assumption that as marketing and sales processes become more streamlined through team members clarifying their roles, responsibilities and targets, then more business will result.
  2. Non-Linear: Here, coach and leader see connections and relationships between parts of the system but don’t jump to conclusions based on causal relationships. Rather, they expect the unexpected, consider unanticipated consequences and other discontinuities. A coach looking at why productivity has improved suddenly when a member of staff went on sick leave (with fewer people productivity should go down, right?), might not be surprised when people start talking about workforce bullying.
  3. Relational: When the coach and leader see their own perspectives as subjective and limited, they recognise the need for collaboration with others who have different places in the system and therefore see things differently. There is a wider consultative emphasis, and coaches focus more on relationships than roles and rules. They behave in ways that are more dialogic and enquiring, and routinely seeking out different frames of reference. Here decision-making is less ‘Command and Control” and more influenced by collective insight.
  4. Complexity:  Through this lens coaches and leaders focus on both local interactions as well as wider contextual patterns. Unpredictability is assumed, as is the phenomenon of sub-systems playing out what happens at higher levels of the system. Attention is paid to examples of parallel process. Coaches cannot think of themselves as separate or neutral, but as co-influencing and co-influenced by the teams they are working with. Change is less a matter of making plans than of engaging in different conversations within and beyond the team. Improvising with what emerges is the art of change from this perspective.
  5. Meta-Systemic: Engaging with this lens, the coach and leader do not view the organisation as a system at all, and do not consider that boundaries are real (for example, between systems and subsystems). Instead, they see systems as metaphorical – useful but arbitrary. Team dynamics are related to how power is constructed and enacted inside and outside of the organisation. Because power ebbs and flows over time and influences meaning-making and decision-taking, a coach looking through this lens will notice how different forms of power influence team dynamics and performance.

Lawrence makes the point that we should not harbour value-judgments about these different approaches - no one way of thinking is better than another. What is important is to be able to access different ways of thinking, as the situation demands, and to identify and challenge our own (and our clients’) habits of thinking. To underscore my point - it is easy to challenge someone's thinking, but far more difficult and important to challenge someone's patterns of thinking. This is at the heart of the systemic practice I most believe in.

Ashley H.

Leading Technology Innovation to Achieve Business Growth | Systems Thinking & Strategic Leadership

4 年

Fantastic article and thank you for sharing with us. I too am concerned with the amount of professionals who are pasting the words "systems" or "systemic" into what they do. It is not so much about changing what we do, but changing how we think. Especially when the World that we are observing is so complex, inter-related and inter-dependent. We must discard the mechanistic, industrial chains that we have dragged into the modern era and begin to see individuals, teams and organisations as organisms rather than mechanisms.

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Christiana Mitcheva??

Certified Executive- and Business Coach / Agile Coach / Team Coach / Global Leadership Coach / Named Best Business Coach 2024 and 2021 in Vienna / Transformation in 4 steps for your organisation, your team and yourself

4 年

Great article for becoming more aware of how we use systemic approach coaching. It is at the end always about the client (team or 1:1 approach), and what are the individual underlying needs. Therefore there is no right or wrong approach, but we need to "pick up" the client, where they are and use all what is there (positive & negative), and work with it, in order to provide the best possible outcome for the individual request, indeed including thinking patterns, those of the client and our own ones.

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Maggie Grieve

Executive, Leadership & Team Coach | Owner Ping Thinking | EMCC Accredited Team Coach (ITCA) | AC Accredited Master Coach and Henley Business School Executive Coach | Team, Strategy and People Builder

4 年

Great article and food for thought - pardon the pun. I’m reminded of Nancy Kline - The quality of what we do depends on the quality of the thinking we do first and the quality of this thinking depends on how we treat each other while we’re thinking. In my view, the value of the framework we use - in this case the lenses - is that they provide different ways to do this thinking for ourselves and with each other. So it’s not just what thinking we do and how we do it but how we do it with each other to achieve our best insights and outcomes.

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Jordi Escartín

Advisory Board Member | Award Winning Global Startup Coach | Early Stage Startup Investor | Visiting Professor King′s College London

4 年

Thank you Ty Francis PhD, great article full of handful thoughts and recognition for great colleagues. I share and embrace the philosophy that coaching is an opportunity to search for patterns, and your point is more than engaging, it is a deep exploration with full acceptance. Thanks for “including” the coach′s habits of thinking in the whole picture, sometimes it is forgotten ,-D

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Anne Wolff

Leadership Development Coach

4 年

Thank you for the interesting post Ty Francis PhD. I have also noticed an increasing tendency to include the term 'Systemic' to descriptions of coaching interventions with apparently little agreement as to what it adds or means. I agree with your assessment that what is important is to help our clients notice their habitual thinking patterns and challenge them to acknowledge when these are no longer helpful, by whatever means is most effective.

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