How RevOps changes in PLG
Inspired by this post by Sam Crowell Richard , I wrote this article with some of the best minds I know.? Most of them are quoted below but I deeply appreciate everyone who contributed.??
Drop comments below or DM me for the source-doc where you can comment in-line.? I’ll keep updating it as an ongoing resource.?
1) Data moves beyond traditional SaaS systems and your data foundation is critical for success
In a PLG world, you are no longer just dealing with account / contact / opportunity data that is well structured in traditional SaaS systems (CRM, MAP and Support are the traditional ones).?
In a PLG world, you need to connect the following data together across all your systems
You can’t leverage product data at scale with legacy CRM (Salesforce + Hubspot) and Marketing Automation (Hubspot and Marketo). ? Their architecture doesn’t support it beyond a few select product data fields. ? Companies have hacked workarounds for the core SaaS stack including:
“Legacy systems were meant to handle columns of data, not streams of data.? We see large PLG companies where the volume of data (events, contacts, API, activities, etc is so great you can't even put it in Marketo even if they wanted.”? Dave Rigotti @ Inflection
“The legacy platforms’ ability to handle event/usage data is definitely a challenge but ultimately I think the bigger issue here is reps really can't synthesize a stream of events or product metrics into action. The role of RevOps in PLG I believe is taking the raw unstructured data and transforming it into actions/playbooks for reps.”? Nikko Georgantonis @ Hightough??
But these hacks are just patches.? To be successful with your PLG motion, you are going to need a data stack , not just a GTM Stack
“With PLG, you are flipping the model on its head. Instead of sales → product it is product → sales.? At Atlassian, we had millions of user records in our prod database; a very small percentage of these were in Salesforce. Existing CRMs aren't designed for that amount of volume of records or event data.”? Patrick Thompson , CEO of Clarify
Implementing a data stack sounds simple but it isn’t.? Data doesn’t map well between unstructured systems (i.e. product).? Here are a few common problems we’ve seen:
“You have to be purposeful on the data you bring and how you pick up from an event stream and where aggregation happens and the frequency of updates.”? Mollie Bodensteiner
You need to partner with data / analytics / product teams to get access to and understand data.??
Finally, we believe that a new wave of GTM tools, built on top of the modern data stack is coming !? You need to get ready for it!
“You should invest in systems that connect with the modern data stack to execute faster and reduce overhead (ex. Not have engineers dedicated to keeping Marketo <> Snowflake data pipeline alive)”? Peter Kirk , Head of RevOps and Professional Services at MadKudu
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2) Triggering emails from data is a new capability RevOps needs to build
“it's imperative that PLG companies move from time-based to trigger-based communications.? This is this the single biggest high ROI activity for free to paid and activation improvements.” Aaron Bird , CEO at Inflection
3) Scoring is no longer a nice-to-have.? And no longer just a configuration in marketing automation tools
“We've split motions into "high-velocity" and "higher-touch" because we need to make sure that sales is spending the right amount of time on the right deals (price points can be low in PLG, so you actually want to try and predict the ACV of different types of customers). This can be tricky to get right and to path customers correctly and make sure sales isn't spending too much effort on low price point engagements.” ? LIndsay Rothlisberger , Head of RevOps @ Zapier
4) World class CPQ with self-service is foundational to in-product upgrades
“Creating an upsell process from self-service > Sales led is also not straight forward from a reporting/systems standpoint. If you don’t get the CPQ right, this could look like a churn + new business versus an upsell.”? ?Nikko Georgantonis @ Hightough??
“One of the biggest changes is that marketing ops 1) starts to deal with post purchase not just net new 2) as result needs to be involved in product usage / events ? Dave Rigotti @ Inflection
5) You can’t run your sales / CS teams without a tech-touch model
“We're automating a large portion of sales outreach because volumes are too high to warrant simply "handing leads off" to sales.? This requires an entirely new skill set where RevOps is using data to identifying opportunities in the funnel and executing on actually driving conversion.”? LIndsay Rothlisberger , Head of RevOps @ Zapier
“We're seeing SDRs book 80+ meetings a month with well-designed prospecting plays (i.e. consolidation of accounts, account nearing paywall, expansion across teams, cross-sell of products based on activity) when the average used to be 10-20 per SDR. This comes from having clear plays to run and full/semi-automation of those plays.”? Sam Levan , CEO of MadKudu
“While you still will want to map out your target accounts and assign them across your reps, there are going to be a lot of companies you didn't expect. And your typical "lead routing" isn't quite sophisticated enough because that assumes you have a discrete demo form fill that came inbound, whereas you really want to encourage allowing reps to outbound the "warm" accounts (but also not force them to hit the "warm" accounts with an SLA).” ? Tido , CEO at Koala
6)? Attribution is now 3-D chess
“The self serve, product, free trial motion become additional components of your attribution data.? Much like “content”, product/trial/self-serve isn’t a source, it’s a medium.? The source is still search/referral/webinar, product/trial/self-serve is the offer or content that brought them in.? Many people get this wrong.? Source and offer/content are orthogonal and mutually exclusive, they are different dimensions to attribution.”? Aaron Bird , CEO of Inflection (and founder of Bizible)
7)? Product plays a much more critical role in the funnel
Fractional HubSpot & GTM partner | ABM, CRM & RevOps
1 个月Great article ?? Andy Mowat, thanks for sharing it Nick Bryner! At what scale should you consider a data warehouse? I believe there is also a spot for HubSpot + June to connect PLG data in your GTM motion. When and why is that not enough anymore?
Great article Andy. Building and operating PLG Self-serve products at scale has been very difficult. Disparate tools, connecting different sources of data streams etc. We've started to put a Learn series to showcase few key insights you mentioned #3 - Scoring of accounts #5 - Product-Led sales using the usage, enrichment and ICP data from self-serve. https://www.thrivestack.ai/learn
CEO & Co-founder at Ripe | Grow your pipeline with users who are ready to buy
2 个月this was a great post ?? Andy Mowat!
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2 个月excellent as always ?? Andy Mowat