How Monzo, Revolut, and Starling get to break-even, and comparison with WeChat and Facebook
Lex Sokolin
Managing Partner @Generative Ventures | ex Consensys Chief Economist & CMO | Fintech, AI, Web3
Hi Fintech futurists --
This week, we look at:
- The financial model behind Monzo, and comparisons to Revolut and Starling
- How the Eastern super apps inspired the marketplace model, and why that success is hard for neobanks to replicate
- Paths from losing $100 million per year to break-even and enabling digital assets and other financial products
- Facebook Financial forming to take over payments and commerce
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Long Take
We've had a bit of time to digest the annual results of the largest UK neobanks. The results say more about consumer Fintech investing than about any company in particular. Grab the financial model we built for this analysis here.
First came the gut reaction -- sticker shock about the $50 to 100 million per year losses for Revolut, Monzo, and Starling. Next came the arithmetic of how much these companies raised, and how together they have 15 million users and $10 billion of European Fintech unicorn enterprise value. Could these companies follow the success of Transferwise in creating a global player, or will Goldman's Marcus eat everyone's lunch? Did their B2C customer acquisition catalyze banking-as-a-service and push the incumbents to do more with existing systems? And finally, how well does the marketplace banking idea really compare with the Eastern super apps? Our initial take is in last week's podcast and this week's Sifted.
But we can get sharper. Let's provide some larger context for why this stuff matters, and then dig in one layer deeper into the numbers. Neobanks grew up out of three themes. The first was a dissatisfaction with British banks, whose customer experiences were poor and expensive (while being seen as prestigious). The second was the Economist's claim that "data" was the "new oil". This led to the Web 2.0 claim of growing a massive user base, like Facebook or Amazon did, and monetizing it later. Throw in a narrative around financial data aggregation and artificial intelligence for personalized financial product placement, and you Visa will acquire you for $4 billion (I kid!).
The logic of data being more valuable than money suggests that having data on people and their financial lives gives you the embedded option of selling them financial products. As an example -- would you rather have $100 in fees per year, or potentially $1,000 per year at some probability of you selling me a mortgage? To a venture capital investor, the embedded option is more attractive given a portfolio structure that requires unicorns. Nobody wants ordinary success. And given the regulatory barrier that prevented neobanks from actually doing banking between 2015 and 2017, the embedded options looked like a gold pot. Now, in 2020, with a few years of licensed banking operations, we can take a sober look at what the data is really worth today.
Lastly, around this time the Eastern superapps like WeChat and AliPay started to enter the Western consciousness. Chinese tourists came to Europe to spend, and asked for QR codes from merchants in order to do transactions. The massive digital payments volumes figures and money market amounts eclipsed all expectations. And so the neobanks adopted the outward appearance of superapps -- to be a marketplace of digital products and services powered by a core, modern financial experience. While this sounds good, we now see that the math is a real struggle.
In China, Ant Financial has over 1 billion users. In American terms, you should think of Visa or MasterCard as a comparison, or maybe American Express. That would be a payment rail that is required for anyone to buy pretty much anything, especially online and via proximity payments. Nearly each one of the billion users is using the app to pay, therefore growing the commerce apps embedded within the payments ecosystem, and generating fees. For someone like Monzo, however, you have the dual problem of (1) converting a much smaller 65 million UK population into a new bank that competes with large incumbents, and (2) trying to bootstrap a meaningful marketplace which will see some additional conversion drop-off. Even at a 10% conversion rate following a 10% conversion rate, we see only 1% of users touching captive marketplace services. For all purposes, Monzo is competing with both Barclays for banking and Apple for the operating system of apps. Ouch.
Take the counter example. If WeChat is "outlawed" or somehow "blocked" by the Trump administration (a prospect that we find sets an awful precedent and helps no one), 95% of Chinese users would get a new phone to keep WeChat. Pretty sure the UK neobanks do not garner the same level of loyalty.
We don't need to belabor this point. In a world where Facebook is creating a paytech unit focused on global commerce under David Marcus (former president at PayPal, head of Facebook Messenger for 4 years, and of course the face of Facebook's cryptocurrency effort Libra) tells you enough about how much space will be left for B2C banking. People just might switch phone brands for Facebook.
The Financial Model
We modeled Monzo's economics, and use that as a reference point against which Revolut and Starling are compared. Arguably, Monzo is the most fragile of the three players despite having a banking license for 2 years and having converted 94% of its prepaid card customers into current accounts for deposits and lending. But it is also the most straight-forward in applying neobank strategy to the consumer space and trying the marketplace idea.
Starling leans towards small business banking and larger average accounts, which we think creates more complex math once at scale. It is also funded by more price-sensitive investors. Whereas Monzo benefits from the powers of the community on Crowdcube and Revolut has the endless pockets of DST behind it, Starling affiliates with more traditional banks and high-net-worth investors, keeping its valuations private. Revolut has the added complexity of other business lines including crypto trading, holding nearly $100 million in digital assets that experience price fluctuation. So Monzo is a good place to get grounded.
If you are interested in these numbers, we would also recommend you check out these analytics from Sanjeev Kumar (PwC) and Marc Rubinstein (Net Interest), which are even more granular than our quick and dirty annual assumptions.
Monzo does two main things for money now that it is a bank. It (1) takes deposits, and (2) powers payments. On GBP 1.3 billion of deposits, it lends out about 10% at a 15 to 20% interest rate, and it also takes customer assets and parks them in a central bank to earn about 45 basis points of return. Those activities yield GBP 25 million of net interest income. Note however that this year there is about GBP 20 million of expected credit losses, which suggests that 15% to 20% of the loans are written off. That's really high -- lending is hard during a global pandemic!
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4 年Thanks for sharing
Operations Clerk at KARUR VYSYA BANK
4 年WHEN IT COME TO INDIAN MARKETS
Manager at Protiviti UK
4 年Great insight - particularly interesting to hear how low Starling Marketplace revenue was for the year. And as you highlight, for Monzo in particular, the path to profitability is long indeed. Do you think the battle for the position of European Fintech Champion is between N26, Revolut and Transferwise; or do you see another in the picture?
Cyber and tech executive who helps organizations improve digital security posture, mature engineering practices, increase product delivery velocity, and stay focused on business goals.
4 年Great data here. The value proposition for Neo Banks , somewhat nebulous to begin with, continues to fade. People want low fees, ability to use globally, and to use widely in all their p2p and c2b/b2c transactions with acceptable payment protections, and to be ubiquitous in places the people are in ( various apps, and IRL). FB Financial has the right elements to take a fresh look at this space for the European and American markets.