How to make an impact as a new sales manager
John Smibert
Best selling author - Helping you to transform the way you sell to grow revenue at higher margins, and drive better customer outcomes.
Tom was a successful salesperson and had recently been promoted into a sales management role.
Tom knew this role change had risks. Many newly appointed sales managers are less than successful in their first year or two in the role. He knew if he didn't build credibility early it is hard to establish it down the track.
Tom asked me for advice on what he should do to get off on the right foot and make a strong impact.
Before answering Tom I decided to discuss the subject with Tony Hughes.
I thought Tony's advice was spot on. Firstly he said don't pretend that you have all the answers - even if you think you do. You would't do that if you were selling to a prospective customer so why would you do it with a team member. And in particular do not assume any past poor performance on their part is their fault. You need to build rapport and trust with your sales team - and the best way to do that is ask questions and listen - conduct a discovery of the issues and challenges they face - and then explore what can be done to put solutions in place.
Secondly, Tony said "go and interview your very best customers, and don’t ask them why they bought from you over the competition but ask them why did they buy anything at all. What were the trigger events that occurred in their world that caused them to decide that they needed to go to market, because that’ll give your salespeople clues about where they can go find opportunity".
Tom thought this was great advice and put it into action with good results.
See Ton'y's full response below.
Tony is a leading author and keynote speaker in the world of B2B sales and sales leadership. He is well known for his strategic selling book “The Joshua Principle” and for the RSVPselling methodology.
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Interview
John: Hello! I’ve got Tony Hughes with me again – welcome back, Tony!
Tony: Hi, John – great to be with you!
John: Tony, you give advice to sales managers all the time, particularly sales managers newly moved into the role.
Tony: Yes.
John: That’s the most challenging time for typically successful sales guys just being promoted into a sales management role. What’s the sort of advice you’d give a person just moving into that role?
Tony: For anybody taking the sales management role in a new organisation where things are clearly broken, the advice I would give them is, the first thing is go and listen to the salespeople. You really want to build rapport and trust with them, and if they’re not successful it isn't really because they’re not good; there’s some other impediment to their success. So go and listen to people.
John: That’s great advice. The best sales managers I’ve ever known are the ones that really are on the side of their people, understanding what their issues are, understanding what the roadblocks they’ve got to being successful and getting the roadblocks out of the way for them.
Tony: Yes. Turning up in an organisation and pretending you have all the answers before you understand is a big mistake, the same as if you did that with a prospect. The second thing that I’d recommend they do is they go and listen to their best customers. Most people go and do loss reviews when they lose business to help fix the problem of competing effectively, but that doesn’t help you build pipeline. If you’re a new sales manager, you’ve got to drive revenue, right? So, what I’d say is go and interview your very best customers, and don’t ask them why they bought from you over the competition but ask them why did they buy anything at all. What were the trigger events that occurred in their world that caused them to decide that they needed to go to market, because that’ll give your salespeople clues about where they can go find opportunity.
John: And as you know, I talk a lot with Cian McLoughlin, and Cian talks a lot about the fact that we really need to understand why we’ve been successful, not just why we’ve lost.
Tony: Yes.
John: And that’s what you’re saying. As a sales manager, new to the job and a whole lot of salespeople you’re working with, go and talk to their customers and work out why they have been successful so that you can reinforce it.
Tony: Yes. And why they went through change in their own organisation. About 25% of the deals that get lost from people's CRM systems, as allegedly qualified opportunities, get lost to do nothing; it’s the customer just staying in current state. So, we need to help the customer be committed to making the change, and also to make sure that they’ve got the necessary funding to go ahead. Once our salespeople understand why customers change state, why they went to market in the first place, that’ll help equip people to start to have a narrative around what they need to do as an organisation, to change what the business case looks like, where the risks are, and then you can start to lead with some insights.
John: Great advice, Tony. I think that would be great for the new sales managers, and there’s probably more advice you’ve got to give – let’s cover that another time.
Tony: Great – thanks, John!
John: Thanks, Tony!
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South Region Sales Manager at Metecno Trading
7 年instructive post
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8 年Great interview and outstanding advise I will carry with me as I move up the ladder and hopefully will be entrusted with a position like this in the future.
Gestionnaire Export chez SIFAS OUTDOOR DESIGN
8 年Great interview and quite surprising approach for me as I'm not directly in sales but after sales. Anyway it always interesting clues to understand client and how to establish loyalty. Always listen a client first and then you will find the way to convince him !
International Sales & Leadership, Consultant, Trainer, Coach and Keynote Speaker - Increasing the effectiveness and performance of teams to meet all KPI's
8 年Another great interview with Tony Hughes John Smibert.. I recently read Cian Mcloughlin's book and what really resonated with me was the piece about "Learn from both successes and losses". I use the following with both my clients and myself. "What went well, what didn't go well and what will I learn and do differently next time" Talk to your team, talk to your clients the results are amazing!
Australia's leading Authority on selling to the C-suite. Co-developer of "Selling at C Level" training program & author of "Selling at C Level" eBook. Coach, Devil's Advocate, annoyingly opinionated.
8 年Hi John Smibert, Great interview. Tony J. Hughes always gives good advice (as do you) but this is particularly useful and relevant. I love your and Tony's belief that if someone isn't doing well it isn't necessarily their fault. Many years ago I was a project manager in a support organisation that had a help desk and everyone complained about the poor job the help desk manager was doing and his bad attitude. When I was promoted to professional services manager - and thus was in charge of the help desk - I met with everyone in the team individually. When it came to the help desk manager I simply asked "what's wrong?" - and it all came pouring out. How the help desk wasn't treated as part of the team, got given impossible tasks, no-one ever said thank you, never got invited to team events. I listened and I made an effort to bring them into the fold and within two weeks the attitude changed, performance went up and the help desk manager because a popular, enthusiastic and helpful team member. If I'd continued to assume it was all his fault things would have deteriorated even more. As it was, everyone was happier - the help desk, the customers, the salespeople and the rest of the support team.