How Can You Reverse Engineer Success?
Digital HR Leaders Podcast - EP71 Ron Friedman

How Can You Reverse Engineer Success?

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Co-Author of Excellence in People Analytics | People Analytics leader | Director, Insight222 & myHRfuture.com | Conference speaker | Host, Digital HR Leaders Podcast

发布日期: 2021年6月29日
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Providing people with learning opportunities is crucial if you are trying to get them engaged and prevent burnout

As Ron Friedman, my guest on this week’s episode, explains: we’ve been taught for generations that there are two ways to succeed – either from innate talent or (as popularised by Malcolm Gladwell in his 10,000 hours concept in Outliers) – practice. 

In his new book, Decoding Greatness, Ron describes a third path - one that has quietly launched icons in a wide range of fields, from artists, writers, and chefs to athletes, inventors, and entrepreneurs – and one that Ron tells me can be applied widely to learning in the workplace: the path of reverse engineering.

Reverse engineering simply means finding the best examples in a field and then working backwards to identify how they were created and how they can be recreated in a novel context

Ron is a social psychologist whose main focus is on helping people succeed faster. He is a frequent contributor to publications like Harvard Business Review, Psychology Today and Forbes. Ron’s first book, The Best Place to Work: The Art and Science of Creating an Extraordinary Workplace, which we also discuss in our conversation, was named a business book of the year by Inc.

You can listen by clicking on the image below or by visiting the podcast website here. 

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In our conversation Ron and I discuss:

  • The differences between learning through talent, practice and reverse engineering: "Rather than looking for your talent or practicing for far longer than is reasonable, reverse engineering (involves) incorporating learning into everyday life by taking outstanding examples, and working backwards, to figure out what is it that makes this unique."
  • How to harness the power of reverse engineering and boost your career: "The critical thing really is not to passively enjoy experiences, but to consistently think, how was this created? What could I learn from this? How can I apply this to a project that I am working?"
  • Why the three key psychological needs of i) competence ("Feeling like you are good at what you do, but also having the ability to grow your competence on a regular basis"), ii) relatedness ("Feeling connected to other people") and iii) autonomy ("Feeling like you have some say in what you do at work") are at the heart of employee engagement and performance: "Providing people with learning opportunities is crucial if you are trying to get them engaged and also prevent burnout."
  • Top tips on how to learn and acquire new skills: "There is something really powerful about opening your eyes up and questioning what is it that makes us impactful, even when it is something that is happening outside your field, because it's in doing that that you identify ingredients you can incorporate into your own field."
  • The role of metrics in measuring and understanding performance: "The scoreboard principle simply comes down to, if you want to get better at anything, the first step is to figure out the points you are trying to score and monitor them regularly. We are naturally drawn to metrics and you can harness them in a way that actually helps you elevate your performance."
  • How to optimise for the hybrid workplace: "There has been a realisation among many that productivity doesn't tank when you let people choose where they are working from."
  • The importance of exercise and relationships to retention and performance: "More and more leaders recognise the importance of giving people some freedom, allowing them to exercise over the course of the workday and investing in those relationships because really those are the tools that are vital to retention and top performance."

This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested or involved in creating a culture of performance and continuous learning. So that’s business leaders, CHROs and anyone in a People Analytics, Culture, Learning, Employee Experience or HR Business Partner role.

We are naturally drawn to metrics and you can harness them in a way that actually helps you elevate your performance


LISTEN TO THE PODCAST

To listen to the Podcast and read the transcript of my discussion with Ron, head over to myHRfuture by clicking on this link: How Can You Reverse Engineer Success?


WATCH THE VIDEOS

As well as the podcast, there will be a couple of videos available on the myHRfuture YouTube channel highlighting two of the topics Ron and I cover in our conversation. In the clip below, Ron explains how to use reverse engineering to learn and achieve success:



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THANK YOU

A huge thank you to Ron for sharing his time and expertise. You can connect with Ron on LinkedIn, follow Ron on Twitter @RonFriedman, visit Ron's website and find out more about his work by visiting the ignite80 website. To find out more about Ron's new book, Decoding Greatness and his previous book The Best Place to Work by clicking on the links below.

Thanks to Ruxandra Prodan and the team at AG5 for sponsoring Series 15 of the podcast, and also Ian Bailie, Manpreet Randhawa, Caroline Styr and the myHRfuture team for creating the Digital HR Leaders podcast and video series. 

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ABOUT THE AUTHOR

David is a globally respected author, speaker, conference chair, and executive consultant on people analytics, data-driven HR and the future of work. As Managing Partner and Executive Director at Insight222, he has overall responsibility for the delivery of the Insight222 People Analytics Program, which supports the advancement of people analytics in over 70 global organisations. Prior to co-founding Insight222 and taking up a board advisor role at TrustSphere, David accumulated over 20 years experience in the human resources and people analytics fields, including as Global Director of People Analytics Solutions at IBM. As such, David has extensive experience in helping organisations increase value, impact and focus from the wise and ethical use of people analytics. David also hosts the Digital HR Leaders Podcast and is an instructor for Insight222's myHRfuture Academy. His book, co-authored with Jonathan Ferrar, Excellence in People Analytics: How to use Workforce Data to Create Business Value will be published in the summer of 2021.

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Niall S.

Analytics & Reward Strategy Lead | nationally-recognised; delivering operational and strategic value through data-driven solutions

3 年

Thanks for this, was a really interesting subject. We often look toward curated "best practice" examples and process frameworks but I think Reverse Engineering supplements that approach with a technique that can extract value from potentially any interaction you have. ??

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Lorraine Hunt ??

AI & Automation Expert for HR | Proven systems to reduce admin & repetitive tasks to save time, maximise efficiency, level up your HR | ?? Award winning training specialist, FCIPD ?? Impactful. Immersive. Innovative.

3 年

Love the idea about questioning and opening our eyes to other possibilities that can enable us to learn new things. I remember learning about lean and six sigma many many years ago, wondering how that related to HR but for me it has been invaluable and something I have consistently used. I think that by learning things from unexpected places it enables you to have a unique edge.

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Rick van Echtelt

Founder & CEO at AG5

3 年

Thanks, David Green that we can support this great podcast with Ron Friedman, Ph.D.

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Prof Maruf Islam PhD

NMF Founder and CEO, University Teaching, Int'l Development, SDGs; Focusing: Climate Action, Gender Equality, Environment, Good Health, Quality Education, and Well-being for PWD & MH; ex UN (FAO and WFP), and ex CARE USA

3 年

David Green, all the best from Naifa Maruf Foundation

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