UPDATE on: Has The C19D Disinformation Hit Your Listserv?

UPDATE on: Has The C19D Disinformation Hit Your Listserv?

Jenna Luché-Thayer. UPDATE regarding my September 16, 2021 article.


UPDATE

On September 16, 2021, I published an article on LinkedIn that went viral. The topic was about Covid19 disinformation, and the role played by a particular listserv that actively disseminates disinformation. The original article follows this update. The September 16th article also included the C19D listserv's 2,500 member email addresses.

Following the publication of the September 16th article, many people reached out to me and stated that, like me, they have never consented to be on the C19D listserv. So it appears the "true C19D membership" is smaller than they claim.

I was told these unwilling members were being inundated with junk email and suspicious email that appears to coincide with the dates they were 'subscribed'. Some were receiving emails that promote the sales of books and videos that promote fake Covid19 conspiracies. This kind of merchandise appears to be part?of a larger 'Covid19 cottage?industry' that tries to make money by?exploiting?people's naivety,?trust?and fears.?

The September 16 article went global and also unleashed the trolls and some public statements from those unhappy to be publicly disclosed as having an affiliation with the C19D Listserv.

There were attempts to have the article blocked, here below is how LinkedIn responded to these requests.

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I am, however, being harassed and threatened by some C19D members. For these reasons I now share this article without the email address list. Please share widely.

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SEPTEMBER 16 ARTICLE follows...

I am sharing this information because I do not believe I am alone in this experience. This article will detail how pernicious efforts are seeding distrust, instability, disinformation, conspiracies among our professional and social circles and how one Listserv is accomplishing mayhem. My assessment is informed by more than 35 years of international work in governance, human rights, and corruption.?

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MAYHEM ON MY LISTSERV

I am a member of a medical and scientific Listserv that openly debates all scientific theories and medical practices. Over the last number of months my Listserv has been inundated with a flood of junk science, misinformation, disinformation, and conspiracies about Covid19, vaccines, deep state and depopulation.

Other changes also occurred over this time. Bullying, name-calling and partisan politics have often replaced our practice of collegial and friendly debates. It became quite common to disparage and mock members who discuss Covid19 morbidity and mortality rates, surges, early treatments, improving therapeutics, variants of concern, vaccine efficiency and the risk of adverse events, the merits of masking, contact testing and tracing, mandates, improved ventilation, and other public health practices.

I observed that much of the toxicity and misinformation revolved around a particular member. I have witnessed how this deluge of disinformation has led some members on my Listserv to now believe vaccines are poisonous, one might be physically held against their will and vaccinated, that Covid19 is a depopulation strategy, that almost all remedies brought to bear have been designed to hurt and enslave people and that all governments intend maliciousness and harm.

What was happening to my Listserv?

On September 5, 2021, I began to get some answers. On that day I was subscribed without my permission to the C19D List. I then observed how the content of the C19D List was being shared on a daily basis with my Listserv.

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IS THE C19D LIST A SOURCE OF MAYHEM?

The [email protected] description is “Doctors and others who are fighting COVID-19. The discussion includes treatment (early and late), ongoing research, and broad governmental policy” , and it’s owner is identified as Dr. Peter A. McCullough.

It appears, however, the purpose of the C19D List may be more complicated than its stated description.

The C19D List appears to want wide influence among the political class, academic centers, media, government, business, and the health care system. The C19D List membership includes 2,500+ members representing all these entities. On a daily basis, the members are encouraged to share C19D List content widely across social media platforms, their peers and to the media. The C19D List appears to encourage organized political actions against public health measures and mandates to control Covid19, with the exception of early treatment. ?

The C19D List appears to use the Soviet playbook when it comes to disinformation. This is described in The New York Times opinion video titled “Operation InfeKtion" by Adam Ellick. The Russian technique sows chaos, exploits existing tensions and fears in American society and wraps fake news and conspiracies around a grain of truth.

These techniques employ the “useful idiot”; this is usually a person who cannot grasp the agendas behind the messages. The useful idiots do much of the work spreading the messages and helping to repeat the messages so often that it becomes almost impossible to differentiate between the truths and lies.

For example, Russia Today has more truth than conspiracy theory, but it's embedded. “Russia Today is about 80 percent actual journalism and 20 percent disinformation, which gives the 20 percent of disinformation a lot more credibility because you think, well, so much of what's on here is true. This must be true, too.”

The C19D List owner, Dr. McCullough has testified before Congress on early treatments for Covid19. Most frontline medical persons I know want effective, inexpensive and widely accessible early treatments to become a standard part of the toolkit to fight the Covid19 pandemic.

After testifying before Congress, Dr. McCullough then became infamous for his “kids?kids?kids?kids?kids” conspiracy.?The following quotes from?Dr. Peter McCullough are found at?the June 11, 2021 webinar hosted by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich.?

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“McCullough said he believes the [Covid19] bioterrorism has come in two stages—the first wave being the rollout of the coronavirus, and the second, the rollout of the dangerous vaccines, which he said may already be responsible for the deaths of up to 50,000 Americans.”

“The first wave of the bioterrorism is a respiratory virus that spread across the world and affected relatively few people—about one percent of many populations—but generated great fear,” McCullough explained during the?Oval Media?webinar with other doctors.

McCullough explained that both the coronavirus and the vaccines deliver “to the human body, the spike protein…We know that?this is phase two of bioterrorism, we don’t know who’s behind it, but we know that they want a needle in every arm to inject messenger RNA, or adenoviral DNA into every human being,” he said. “They want every human being.”

“If you said this is all a Gates Foundation program to reduce the population, it’s fitting very well with that hypothesis, right? The first wave was to kill the old people by the respiratory infection, the second wave is to take the survivors and target the young people and sterilize them,” he said.

“If you notice the messaging in the country, in the United States, they’re not even interested in old people now. They want the?kids. They want the?kids,?kids,?kids,?kids,?kids!”

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TOPICS FOUND ON THE C19D LIST

What caused Dr. McCullough to morph from a doctor sharing his experience on early treatments before Congress to someone who appears to believe vaccines are being used to sterilize “kids kids kids kids kids”? That remains to be seen. Unfortunately, this transformation appears to be reflected in the content found on the C19D List.

Here follows a list of topics collected from the C19D List this last week:

> New evidence, including a sworn affidavit from Prof. Luc A. Montagnier, has been submitted to the International Criminal Court alleging World Governments are complicit in genocide and crimes against humanity

> Hunger strike assistance

> NO MONOCLONAL GARBAGE?

> CDC numbers used to justify vax, shows higher absolute risk of hospitalization with post-vax injury

> Forbidden to Rx ivermectin for last 8 weeks at clinic

> Military Members are Dying and Suffering Crippling Effects from COVID Vaccinations/Dr Lee Merritt

> Central Issue - Mass Vaccination During a Pandemic leads to Chaos

> A short review of the ethics of human experimentation and collective punishment

> India charges WHO Scientist Soumya Swaminathan for Mass Murder?

> Israel Was The Forerunner - This is Our Future. Israeli Covid Truther Said He Was Attacked By Poison When Arrested By Police for Protesting

> ProPublica claim re. hospitals full of unvaccinated not supported by the data it cites

> Nikki Minaj, and I am from the same island, gave us a gift, we must run with it now, she opened a door for us to walk through now and showcase the damage from the shots, not just swollen balls, we can take clots, etc

> Sen. Johnson: It Is Shocking that Fauci Does Not Have a Firm Grasp on the Effectiveness of Natural Immunity

> TCW Defending Freedom: The government’s war on vaccine opponents could be a legal own goal

> DOCTOR EXPOSES COVID BIOWEAPONS PROGRAM & REVEALS VACCINE WILL KILL MILLIONS

> thousands flood ABC affiliates Facebook with vaccination horror stories

> More Scary Info/ Top Scientist Claims Anthony Fauci ‘Untruthful’ About Chinese Lab Research

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?TOXIC COMMENTARY FOUND ON THE C19D LIST

The C19D List is full of conspiracy and hate language in its commentary.? Here follows some examples?of the commentary. Some of the following content is offensive.??

1.?"I've said the pandemic is the gun and the vaccines are the bullets. But depopulation is just part of the globalist elite's agenda. They want to bring in a New World Order, the Great Reset, Build Back Better where there is one world totalitarian government where they control every aspect of your lives. The WHO's recent vax pass is funded by the Gates and Rockefeller Foundations."?

2.???“mothers run things... she has been silent, maybe still shell shocked but kill her babies, and the real Shenna warrior princess emerges...I cant wait...for it will happen... btw, I used to think that democrat congresswoman the Rhinestone cowgirl with the big cowboy hat...Frederica Wilson?[woman of color]?was stupid, and the other idiot in congress Sheila Jackson Lee [woman of color] who thought we planted the flag on MARS, and what about the real dingbat who said we would tip over GUAM with too many people...the ding dong congressman Hank Johnson [man of color]...what a bunch of idiots...these three have a collective IQ of 4...?there is a new formula I hear kind of like for BMI...just we divide by age...and that's their IQ...[like] LeBron 'MoRon' James [man of color] .”?

3.?“Everyone should consider connecting to others through?freedomcell.org?and Telegram groups geared toward freedom. Creating a supportive community network is key to surviving the tyranny.?

4. “We need to be wary of being lulled by the "reassurances" that they [vaccines] are "immortal" cell lines and the heinous act occurred so distantly that it no longer really matters. The cell lines are long lived, but not immortal. They have to be replaced, and China continues to harvest cells from aborted babies to do so. The initiation of the evil act (abortion) has no justification and is fundamentally unjust, which leaves us with the question of how we approach the use of the cells obtained unjustly. Obviously, those who use vaccinations that have used fetal cell lines in some part of their development, production, or testing have a different level of moral responsibility to the evils of abortion than those who actively participate in the termination of human life or the harvesting of body parts, but all bear some degree of moral responsibility.

5.??“Pardon me for being a Reprover, but it is so needed. I want to know what part of someone’s brain tells them that it’s a good idea to inject people with LAB CREATED MOUSE OR HUMAN MOUSE OR EVEN HUMAN DERIVATIVES?! I’m sure that must be the part of the brain that serves Bigpharma and Satan, or maybe it’s just filthy greed? Why would ANYONE want ANYTHING from a MOUSE in their BODY?! The monsters making this garbage is CORRUPTING ALL OF HUMANITY”?

6. “A novel best-case scenario cost-benefit analysis showed very conservatively that there are five times the number of deaths attributable to each inoculation vs those attributable to COVID-19 in the most vulnerable 65+ demographic.”

“yes, bitches” ?[response]

Best,

Paul E. Alexander, PhD Health Research Methodologist Evidence-Based Medicine Clinical epidemiologist Former WHO-PAHO and US Health and Human Services (HHS) consultant/senior COVID Pandemic advisor Former McMaster A Professor Evidence-Based Medicine

7.??“There is a general problem that the vast majority of top-tier medical professionals and political activists are usually great on one or two aspects of covid, but they buy into the rest of them. FLCCC docs are a perfect example of this - they are amazing on treatment, and fairly good on acknowledging post-vax SAE's/"long-haul" symptoms, but they don't have granular experience on anything else, so they will push masks and distancing. A particularly egregious example of this is that Dr. Paul Marek - the 'elder statesman' and intellectual leader of the FLCCC - stated on an interview that the disappearance of the Flu proves the efficacy of facemasks, which is utterly delusional…”??

8.??“I agree that there have been, far too frequently, conflicting messages about these "vaccines", really agents of destruction and death. I too ,have been offended by the statement from FLCCC re: "utility of these “vaccines”?

9.???Mandate Option? WATCH THIS?https://odysee.com/@LongXXvids:c/Ernst-Wolf-speech---summary:3?fbclid=IwAR3722AH_EtDuMkEeQnqwl5g5mwzojgWf16HMPZFk1dlEi47_EgS5Z7NxNs?

Ernst Wolf, Author and journalist and expert in matters of the global financial economy Ernst Wolff gave this speech on or around 24th Aug 2021. It is probably one of the best and most concise AND PERFECT exposures of the whole fake Corona narrative AND WHY IT IS OCCURRING and ends on a hopeful message of what people can do to prevent the?dystopic?vision of Klaus Schwab and his supporters becoming 'the new normal'.?

"This man in the video makes some great points, but what I notice is that he leads people to believe that the responsible parties are Klaus Schwab and banks, when in reality that is not the full truth. Our evil U.S. GOVERNMENT has been covertly following and implementing UNITED NATIONS agendas since 92 when traitor Bush Sr agreed to it.?

The UN (founded by ROTHSCHILDS, ROCKEFELLERS and others) have been taking over our nation many years, with their lying Sustainable Development from HELL that steals everything we OWN from us, including most of our LIVES. I have researched and found ROTHSCHILDS to be the main culprits behind this insane attack on humanity. Rothschilds own or control most banks and utilities. These monsters, through Walmart, I believe, have dug a worldwide tunnel system. According to online rumors, Mrs. Walton, owner of Walmart, is a Rothschild. I cannot prove that, but it fits. Walmart also has contracts with our MILITARY, that they are to provide them with whatever they need during a?marshal?law scenario, and all other stores are to be SHUT DOWN, according to what I found. How dirty is that?. There are over 600 ICLEI offices nationwide that are pushing these agendas from HELL on our local communities, under?the lying guise?of ‘sustainability’… Covid was their evil means to DO THAT. With all of the graphene oxide, (main ingredient in BRAIN HACKING?BEURAL?LACE) and their 5G and other CELL coverage, they think they can then control us any way they want in their ‘sustainable’ PRISON CITIES. And now the govt is funding means to see that all outlying, remote areas get COVERAGE TOO, for those who may try to ESCAPE THEIR SATANIC?CONTROL.”??

10.???"The Frei Korps worked once upon a time. And, we are subsidizing the lowest of humanity since 1965 in the US, as I'm sure you know. Soon they will be a majority, as planned. Do you really want the future world human gene pool dominated by such as man-boobed, psychopathic Bill Gates? (Psychopathy is a genetic trait.) In thinking of these less than 1/10th of one percent humanoids, consider how, and upon whom they must live. Upon whom must they rely for everything? The rest of us is the answer. In a world of 7.8bn humans, the idea that we must submit to the will & designs of the psychopathic less than a basis point reptilian people to cooperate in our own extinction is absurd, illogical, Sir. We have the might, let's make it right."?

11.???"The lab in Spain that tested all the vaccines, says that all of them have large amounts of graphene oxide in them. Graphene oxide is the main ingredient in BRAIN HACKING neural lace and hydrogels. It is also very poisonous."??

12.???“Send this to everyone you know!!! a govn bureaucrat or technocrat dies things to cover up a wrong or prepare for a wrong...did Pfizer create this fake second vaccine they gave conditional full approval for and to run the safety tests on that assuming it will fail...so if it does, wont pull the existing Pfizer as will just extend the EUA...but if it passes in the fake vaccine that you cannot get, then they will say its similar to the existing EUA jab, that 'see look, it is safe' and then full approval for the Pfizer...I am just trying to game this out and think like the evil one...these beasts did this for a reason, they are crooked as”??https://rumble.com/vkrf8v-urgent-message-fauci-knew-everything-share-share-share.html??

13.???"My point being, how long is it going to take to kill 7 billion? If it's a bioweapon designed to kill people to reduce the current population and the one to come, is it not inefficient? Why don't they create an ever continuing income stream to sell drugs and treatments and human farm their victims/subjects? Can India, Africa, South America afford these jabs? Don't they want them dead too, should they not offer the jabs for free if they want everyone to die. What are they really trying to do, what's the overall agenda?"?

14.???"I think doctors should tell people exactly what both the lab created bioweapon ‘virus’ and the brain hacking, poisonous bogus vax really ARE. They are bioweapons and they were created to do exactly what they are doing. Kill us, injure us, and enslave us. And our own filthy govt and mainstream media are to BLAME, or all those govt agencies who were exposed FUNDING the Communist Chinese Bioweapons Lab in Wuhan China wouldn’t have been doing that. It’s called TREASON and they need desperately to be ARRESTED and CHARGED with it. If you do NOT tell people the real truth, and they find out the truth later...they will blame YOU. And that could get VERY UGLY fast for you.?So honesty is the best answer. There is no easy way out of this. The easiest way would be if our sheriffs woke up and did their jobs, and arrested the filthy scum running this country into the ground. Because if they DON’T, millions more will die. Maybe billions, if other countries do what I think they MIGHT, when they find out what our disgusting govt has done to them! If you see the U.N. troops coming, I suggest you DEFEND YOURSELVES, because they are not coming for a friendly visit."??

15.?“What a bunch or moronic idiots...on the one hand they say 75% of those doubled jabbed in Scotland are dying...but still get it for if you dont, death toll will be higher...what crazy stupid people...maybe if you get to 99% dying then we will consider stopping the shot.”??

16.?“Is anyone here ever gonna catch on to the very old depopulation agenda of our ruling elites who have controlled medicine & 'vaccines' for over 100 yrs.? There is further history, but this should be enough for anyone to go off on it this point. I've intensive documentation of it all, but it's blown off. Discussions of the non-virus won't help, nor anti the vaxx effort- all medicos will be able to do is triage & MASH units soon, but there's prep for that, outside of FEMA, the enemy. It's not just a legal issue either, the courts will be closed or under martial law and those who are chosen to sit are chosen by the likes of commie Obama. Then there is the monetary/currency crisis which comes - no Fed funds at all. This is a systemic collapse of the US and most of our military are compromised or near incapable. Not happen here? It already has. Are you really ready for the fully calamity?”??

17.?“It's fairly obvious that a global empire system cannot be sustained as the population, standard of living, and technology increase, because increasing population density requires technologies with increasing energy flux density, which technologies eventually also get everyone weapons of mass destruction, at which point a unipolar imperial system is no longer tenable. So, a depopulation agenda is the only way for ruling elites to maintain their unipolar rule over us. The idea is about this simple. Just like it is just as simple that the only way to implement controlled depopulation is by direct injections or by starvation. Cannot do it with nukes, and bioweapons fizzle out when they are too lethal and don't kill enough when they are less lethal.?So, my question is, what do you want? There is only one way to counter a depopulation agenda…”?

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WERE YOU SUBSCRIBED WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION TO THE C19D List?

I became very alarmed to find myself subscribed as a member to the C19D List. My first reaction was to unsubscribe myself. Then I decided it would be more useful to take the needed time to expose this group.

My fellow members include Senator Ron Johnson and his staff, Mike Lindell, the My Pillow Guy and James Lyons-Weiler, or his alias, Jack Knight, founder and CEO of IPAK and former Trump official Paul Elias Alexander.?Lyons-Weiler has an established history of being?against vaccination and having debunked publications.

Paul Elias Alexander?was an official at the?US Department of Health and Human Services?(HHS) during the?COVID-19 pandemic. Alexander became known for pressuring public health agencies to?suppress and edit their Covid19 analyses to make them consistent with Trump's rhetoric.

According to emails later obtained by the?House Select Oversight Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis. Alexander advocated for a?strategy of mass infection of the public with Covid19?to build?herd immunity, strategized with other Trump officials to downplay the virus and pushed for a rapid end to COVID-19-related restrictions on business.?

After leaving his federal position at HHS, Alexander defended his actions, stating he wanted the CDC to make their reports "more upbeat so that people would feel more confident going out and spending money" (interview with the?Toronto Globe and Mail?). He also claimed to be better qualified than CDC scientists to assess data, saying: "None of those people have my skills. I make the judgment whether this is crap."?

None of these persons are among those I would ever choose to share a professional or personal affiliation.

You may find you have been subscribed to this group and want to disengage. If you do not want to be part of the mayhem, please take time to share my article among your friends, family, colleagues and social media platforms and then UNSUBSCRIBE!

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Thank you,

Jenna Luché-Thayer. 35+ years working globally on the rights of the marginalized. Former Senior Advisor to the United Nations and the US Government.

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Daniel Murphy

Self Employed at Murphy's Tree Service

3 年

Dr. McCullough knows more about medicine and the science relevant to Covid-19 than anyone you have ever met. Wherever he goes, he's the smartest person in the room and he cares about people first and science second. Big pharma has completely co-opted both political parties, the media, social media, as well as the science. Fauci got caught lying and walks away smelling like a rose.. this is as bad as WMD's, the 19 hijackers, and Oswald acting alone.

Jenna Luche-Thayer

Senior Advisor - US Government, United Nations, non-profits, corporate social responsibility programs

3 年

another helpful article to understand what is happening via C19D https://www.spsp.org/news-center/announcements/psychology-conspiracy-theories-extremist-groups The Psychology?Behind Conspiracy Theories?and?Extremist Groups

Kathy Dopp

Independent Research Professional

3 年

Here, hi-lighted, in pink, are the types of potentially lethal studies you probably support Jenna Luche-Thayer, the kind that were used to make it look like HCQ is too dangerous and ineffective, so that the pharmaceutical companies and their CDC investors could roll out a COVID "vaccine" that actually IS too dangerous and ineffective.

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Kathy Dopp

Independent Research Professional

3 年

One of the most vaccinated countries, Israel, has, of course, more COVID cases than all its neighboring countries because the COVID vaccine creates NO mucosal immunity, helping to incubate and spread variants more quickly. The vaccinated carry the same viral loads in their nasal and oral cavities as the unvax'd, if not more, so it is not surprising that the number of COVID cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in Israel is growing faster there. Israel had one of the lowest COVID death rates in the world originally because it was using hydroxychloroquine for early treatment in low safe dosages, not the murderously high dosages all the pharma-funded studies, some arranged by the WHO, were using to make it look like hydroxychloroquine was too dangerous and ineffective.

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Kathy Dopp

Independent Research Professional

3 年

I see you've saved a copy of your malicious and illegal posts of the emails you were specifically told in writing not to make public. And you were incapable of simply using one click to unsubscribe from the emails of people who are trying to SAVE lives, unlike yourself who supports policies responsible for the unnecessary deaths of about 1/2 million US lives alone! The US could have as low COVID death rates as most other countries around the world if it were not for the corrupt, illegal, and unethical actions by persons such as yourself. Examine the data here https://ncov2019.live/data Are you even a real person or are you a bot fake profile for a pharmaceutical profiteering group? If you're real and live in Florida you are lucky to live in a state with one of the lowest COVID death rates by age group, even though Florida has the 2nd or 3rd highest number of elderly population. I suppose you support the high death rates from vaccine injuries too - far higher in the young than the likelihood of dying from COVID. Even the old have a far higher risk of dying from the Covid vaccine than from the virus that causes Covid. You are highly unethical to keep all these emails public and are breaking the law in some states. The absolute risk reduction of Covid death from taking any Covid vaccine is FAR lower than the risk increase of taking the same Covid vaccine. Guess you don't care how many hundreds of thousands of persons unnecessarily die first from the murderous treatment protocols and prohibitions of the CDC and now from the COVID vaccine!

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