Getting Hydrogen - How?
Green hydrogen means electrolysis, but there are other more efficient ways!
Fuel cells are designed to generate electricity from hydrogen. This requires a corresponding purity of the gas, which is defined in the XYZ standard.
In practice, there are several ways to obtain the appropriate hydrogen. However, some of these have serious disadvantages or difficulties that make economic use very difficult. Here I try to simplify the sometimes very complex interrelationships so that investment decision-makers can get a feel for the challenges.
Let's get started!
Electrolyzers
Electrolysers appear to be the simplest: take water and electricity and you get hydrogen and oxygen. But this splitting alone costs more than 45 kWh of electricity per kg of hydrogen!
However, you need about 8 kg of water per kg of hydrogen and for most stacks it should also be distilled water.
In regions with a lot of sunshine, you usually have a problem with enough water. Seawater must first be desalinated at great energy expense...
But then pure hydrogen gas is available!
Reforming
The classic process is reforming via various process steps with temperatures of up to 950°C and various catalysts. It is stated that plants from 250 to over 100,000 m3/h are built and operated, although the focus here is more on plants from 20,000 m3/h.
An energy comparison with electrolysis would be interesting. Would anyone like to post in the comments?
Methane pyrolysis
The aim of methane pyrolysis is to split (usually fossil) methane into hydrogen and carbon. The splitting energy is only a fifth of that of electrolysis, which is a positive result. Unfortunately, the methane is normally fossil, because the biogas plants themselves cannot supply the required quantities in the long term.
The cracking process produces very fine powder (#plasmagasification), which presents certain difficulties in handling, or carbon contaminated with metal (#methane pyrolysis), the further use of which still needs to be clarified.
Thermal cracking of solids
There are various ways of producing syngas, including
The main problem is that syngas (I prefer to call it process gas) is a wild mixture of gases and elements that have their own special characteristics:
The big challenge is how I can get the hydrogen out of such a gas in the desired purity.
Pressure Swing Adsorption (#PSA)
The gas is compressed to a pressure of mainly 6 - 40 bar and then purified in several stages. These processes are recommended if a correspondingly high concentration of hydrogen is already present. This is usually > 90%. However, the process gas from the cracking processes rarely contains more than 80%.
Technically, these processes are sufficient, but compressing the gas costs a lot of energy. At higher pressures even more energy than the actual cracking process itself, which has a significant negative impact on economic efficiency.
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Membrane for biogas
A calculation with a normal membrane, which is also used as standard in biogas plants, shows astonishing results:
Now I need another separation process to separate hydrogen and carbon dioxide, which means further investment and energy requirements...
Palladium Membranes
These #palladium membranes typically operate at 300 - 350 °C and pressures of 30 - 50 bar. This means we
Quantum membranes
These membranes use a special effect in which only the hydrogen proton travels through the membrane. However, this in turn requires an impulse:
Chemical storage
Another approach is chemical storage. During discharge, oxygen is removed from a vapor stream by a chemical reaction so that hydrogen can also be released under higher pressure.
When loading, the oxygen must now be removed from this storage tank. In the original case, hydrogen is introduced, which then combines to form water. This would then be a "hydrogen storage tank".
However, loading can now also be carried out using hydrocarbon-containing gases. the important thing is to remove the oxygen.
The interesting thing about the storage tank is that it can be "charged" with process gas at ambient pressure and then "discharged" from the hydrogen under pressure, so that the hydrogen would be pre-compressed at 10 - 20 bar, for example.
For example, a thermal source could be used for a relatively simple pressure build-up (steam generator) to replace electrical compressor work.
The disadvantage is that this process gas would then lose a large part of its calorific value.
The right decision...
The following must now be considered in the context of an installation
Final
If one of the possible providers has recognized himself and would like to come out with his offer, please feel free to do so in the comments! ;-)
PhD
12 个月Where does the figure come from? Would be interesting to see the assumptions behind calculations, especially for environmental impact.
That’s the way! Using pyrolysis and Plasmalysis to produce H2 from different renewable sources!
Administrator at Vemplast Sas - R&D CTO at Gees Recycling Srl - Ind. development Enecolab srl
12 个月Really interesting! I am seeing really interesting results from continuous pyrogassification of industrial waste : important flows of Syngas with >55% of H2 , 25% CO , 15% CH4 and CO2 below 2%. The most important thing is , though, that in environmental and economic balance makes A LOT of difference if we are processing resources (methane, water ) or waste that often need anyway a process to become inert or to dispose.
CleanTech-Investor - #hydrogenstorage - Koks aus Pflanzenkohle - Synthesegas aus Biomasse - Agglomeration von Reststoffen -Wasserstoffdrucktanks - Waste2energy | Speaker im Bereich Wasserstoff und erneuerbare Energien
12 个月Dirk Gerlach - Danke für die Erw?hnung - ich sehe den gr??ten Nutzen in einer Gesamtbetrachtung: Wenn es uns gelingt aus vermeintlichem #Abfall, der Entsorgungskosten und sch?dliche Emissionen verursacht #Wasserstoff zu erzeugen, der weniger Energieeinsatz als die Pyrolyse ben?tigt, dann liegen die Vorteile auf der Hand. #Kl?rschlamm ist hier ein wunderbares Beispiel. Ich empfehle allen Interessierten die LinkedIn-Gruppen "Grüner Wasserstoff ohne Elektrolyse" https://www.dhirubhai.net/groups/12469118/ und "Kl?rschlamm - Problem oder Rohstoff?" https://www.dhirubhai.net/groups/12489566/
"Biotech Engineer & Entrepreneur"
12 个月Thanks for sharing, this is a good starter to discuss H2 sourcing in a broad context