Gartner Created Product Categories

Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark , the producer of CISO Series , and Steve Zalewski . Our guest is Corey Elinburg , CISO, CommonSpirit Health . Here’s what we discussed:

Do new product categories help only vendors and not practitioners? Do we really need more categories of security products? This was the complaint of Caleb Sima , CSO of Robinhood who said, “This helps only vendors and not security practitioners. It’s over complicating a space that needs more simplification. Please stop." Every new Gartner Magic Quadrant may complicate the marketplace but at the same time helps us understand the other vectors we need to protect. Do new categories of security products help or hurt the industry?

New categories are a response to an evolving industry. "The fact that there are prior market constructs suggests that there will always be new constructs,” said Neal Hartsell of Mile1 Marketing . “To say otherwise means that one somehow adheres strictly to the prior set, which is a function of what we knew about data ingest, analysis, and output representation at the time. It's merely evolution." But Ian Tibble of Seven Stones Infosec sees category creation as a marketing tool: "With vendors, a new acronym helps to convince the uninitiated that their solution is a new solution, and not what it really is - a mix of old stuff."

We name it so we can all be on the same page. "Naming a technology makes communication easier. Where all this falls apart is when marketing is given the job of differentiating the product in their messaging,” said Adrian Sanabria of Valence Security . “Everyone wants to be in a bucket of ONE so they can claim to have no competition, to be unchallenged." Dick Wilkinson, of Proof Labs agrees, "Yes, sales are driven by ‘newness’ or differentiation from other products and so vendors literally make up imaginary trends and then try to corner the market on that trend with a rebranded version of the same old tool.”

Categories are critical to be visible to analysts and thus sales. "Analysts would never include us in a report without a category, as we would never fit the criteria for their existing categories, or we'll be on the losing side of an existing quadrant, as we don't have the ‘basic features’ required to be a leader," said Lior Yaari of Grip Security . This greatly threatens the discoverability of innovative companies looking to deliver point solutions.?

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