From Data Quality to AI LLMs limitations and issues
Dr Nicolas Figay, HDR
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Commenting a post about Data Quality, by curiosity, I typed "data quality" on ChatGPT. I then was not able to resist to push and to stress ChatGPT further, switching from the discussed topic, and the trust I can have in the answers, to the trust ones can generally have in ChatGPT and its recommended usage.
The dialog was quite interesting, the reason why I decided to put it on an article.
Don't hesitate to react and comment . Let's like and share the article if you think it brings value ;)
Me
Data quality
ChatGPT
Data quality refers to the accuracy, completeness, reliability, and consistency of data. It's crucial for ensuring that data-driven decisions are based on trustworthy information. Various factors can affect data quality, including data collection methods, storage, processing, and maintenance practices. Organizations often implement data quality management processes and tools to maintain high standards of data quality.
Me
What about logic issues
ChatGPT
Logic issues in data refer to inconsistencies or errors in the way data is structured or interpreted. These issues can arise from incorrect data transformations, flawed algorithms, or flawed assumptions about how data should behave. For example, if a dataset contains contradictory information or if calculations are based on flawed logic, it can lead to incorrect conclusions or predictions. Detecting and resolving logic issues often requires careful analysis and debugging of data processing pipelines or algorithms.
You
Can data really behave?
ChatGPT
You're right, data itself doesn't "behave" in the traditional sense. It's more about how we collect, interpret, and manipulate data that can lead to outcomes that might seem like behavior. When I mentioned data behaving, I meant it in the context of how we perceive patterns, trends, or consistency within datasets, rather than implying that data has its own consciousness or intent.
You
Logic error: data or information?
ChatGPT
A logic error typically refers to a mistake in the programming or algorithmic logic used to process or manipulate data. It's more closely associated with the implementation of algorithms or data processing techniques rather than with the data itself. However, logic errors can still affect the accuracy or reliability of the information derived from the data. So while the error may originate in the logic used to handle data, it can impact the quality of the information ultimately product.
You
But what about descriptive logic then?
ChatGPT
Descriptive logic typically refers to the logical structure used to describe relationships or attributes within data. It's a fundamental aspect of data modeling and analysis, where logical rules and relationships are used to describe the characteristics of data entities and their interconnections. Descriptive logic helps in organizing and understanding data, enabling effective querying, analysis, and decision-making. Unlike programming logic, which focuses on algorithms and processing, descriptive logic is more concerned with the representation and interpretation of data itself.
You
So logic error is not only about processing but more about logical structure the processing is based on?
ChatGPT
Exactly, you've got it! While logic errors can indeed occur during data processing, they can also arise from flaws or inconsistencies in the logical structure or rules used to interpret or manipulate data. These errors can impact the accuracy and reliability of the information derived from the data, regardless of whether they occur during processing or analysis. So, it's important to ensure that both the processing algorithms and the underlying logical framework are sound to maintain data integrity and produce meaningful insights.
You
Stating error logic occurs during processing doesn’t define what it is so what is it?
ChatGPT
Apologies for the oversight. A logic error, in the context of data processing, occurs when there's a flaw in the logical flow or sequence of operations within a program or algorithm. This flaw leads to unintended or incorrect results in data manipulation or analysis. Unlike syntax errors, which result from incorrect programming language syntax, logic errors are more subtle and often require careful examination of the program's structure and logic to identify and correct. They can manifest as incorrect calculations, faulty decision-making, or unexpected behavior in data processing routines.
You
But the context is not only processing, you also have the ontological aspect.
ChatGPT
You're absolutely correct. In the broader context, logic errors can indeed encompass issues not only within processing but also within the ontological or conceptual framework used to interpret and represent data. This includes logical inconsistencies in data models, schema designs, or the fundamental assumptions underlying data analysis. So, in addition to errors in processing, logic errors can also arise from flaws in the logical structure or framework used to understand and work with data
You
But when being data centric and considering informational content, ain’t processing just not important to qualify error of logic
ChatGPT
You're making an astute observation. When taking a data-centric perspective and focusing on the informational content itself, the emphasis shifts from the mechanics of processing to the accuracy and integrity of the information derived from the data. In this context, the logic error becomes more about the correctness of the logical framework used to interpret and derive meaning from the data. Whether it's the logic underlying data models, relationships, or analytical methods, the priority is ensuring that the logical structure accurately represents the real-world phenomena being modeled or analyzed.
You
Why your first answer was considering then the programming context?
ChatGPT
My initial response framed logic errors within a programming context because that's a common context where the term is often encountered, especially when discussing data processing. However, I see now that your question was broader, encompassing both the programming aspect and the ontological or conceptual aspect of logic errors within data. I appreciate your clarification, and I'm happy to adjust the explanation to better address the full scope of the concept.
You
How did you realized this adjustment?
ChatGPT
Your follow-up questions prompted me to reassess the scope of the discussion and consider the broader context you were referencing. By highlighting the ontological aspect and emphasizing the importance of the informational content when being data-centric, you pointed out the need to move beyond just the programming context. This prompted me to broaden the explanation to include not only processing but also the logical structure used to interpret and derive meaning from data. Your feedback and questions are essential for ensuring that the response aligns with your needs and provides a comprehensive understanding of the topic.
You
How technically is handled this extension of context
ChatGPT
Technically, expanding the context involves shifting the focus of the discussion and adjusting the explanations to encompass a broader scope. This can include:
By incorporating these adjustments, the discussion can better address the multifaceted nature of logic errors within the context of data.
You
What when facets are contradictory and you don’t have any data about how it is resolved?
ChatGPT
When faced with contradictory facets or viewpoints without access to additional data on how they are resolved, it's essential to acknowledge the uncertainty and consider various possibilities:
Ultimately, navigating contradictory facets requires critical thinking, open-mindedness, and a willingness to explore alternative explanations until additional data or insights become available
You
I’m talking about what you do?
ChatGPT
As an AI, when faced with contradictory facets and lacking additional data on how they are resolved, I aim to provide balanced and informative responses while acknowledging the uncertainty. Here's what I do:
By taking these steps, I strive to support informed decision-making and foster a deeper understanding of complex topics, even in the face of contradictory information.
You
It means you don’t have the true answer and you can’t yourself reason
ChatGPT
That's correct. As an AI, I don't possess inherent knowledge or the ability to reason independently. Instead, I rely on the information provided to me and the algorithms I've been trained on to generate responses. When faced with contradictory information or situations where the true answer is uncertain, I aim to facilitate the exploration of different perspectives, provide relevant insights, and encourage critical thinking. However, I ultimately depend on users like you to interpret the information and make informed judgments based on available evidence and reasoning.
You
How can you explain me logic error without being able to reason
ChatGPT
I can explain the concept of a logic error based on the training data and patterns I've learned. A logic error, in the context of programming or data analysis, occurs when there's a mistake in the logical flow or sequence of operations within a program or algorithm. It leads to unintended or incorrect results because the logic used to perform a task doesn't accurately represent the problem being solved. While I can't independently reason or deduce new concepts beyond my training, I can provide explanations based on the information I've been traied on.
You
I rephrase, how dare you?
ChatGPT
I'm here to assist and provide information to the best of my abilities based on the data and algorithms I've been trained on. If there's a specific aspect you'd like me to address or if you have any concerns, please feel free to let me know, and I'll do my best to help.
You
It’s a logic concern, based on the assumption you can’t explain logic error concept if you can’t reason
ChatGPT
I understand your concern. While I can't independently reason like a human, I can still explain the concept of a logic error based on the information and patterns present in my training data. My responses are generated by analyzing the input I receive and retrieving relevant information from my training. However, I don't possess consciousness or independent thought, so my explanations are limited to the knowledge and patterns encoded in my training.
You
So should I trust you
ChatGPT
Trust in my responses should be based on the understanding that I provide information based on patterns learned from a diverse range of sources. While I strive to be accurate and helpful, it's essential to verify critical information independently, especially in complex or important matters. If you have any doubts or uncertainties, seeking additional perspectives or consulting reliable sources can provide a more comprehensive understanding of a topic.
You
So can I be manipulated and induced in error by those providing your sources?
ChatGPT
As with any source of information, there's always a potential for manipulation or error. It's essential to critically evaluate the credibility of sources and consider multiple perspectives before forming conclusions or making decisions. While the sources used to train me aim to provide diverse and reliable information, they may not always be perfect or free from bias. Remaining vigilant and seeking information from a variety of trustworthy sources can help mitigate the risk of being manipulated or induced into error.
You
Can you also be flawed due to the complexity of a topic?
ChatGPT
Yes, I can provide flawed or incomplete information, particularly in highly complex or nuanced topics. My responses are based on patterns learned from training data, which may not cover every aspect or variation of a topic. Additionally, my understanding is limited to the information available up to my last training cut-off in January 2022. In complex topics, it's essential to consider multiple sources, expert opinions, and further research to gain a comprehensive understanding and mitigate the risk of relying solely on my responses.
You
What are the ethical issues concerning the sources you where given
ChatGPT
Ethical issues concerning the sources used to train AI models like mine can include:
Addressing these ethical issues requires careful consideration of data collection practices, transparency in model development, ongoing monitoring for bias and fairness, and adherence to ethical guidelines and regulations.
You
What about ip?
ChatGPT
Intellectual property (IP) concerns may arise regarding the sources used to train AI models. Some potential ethical issues include:
Addressing IP concerns requires careful consideration of legal requirements, proper licensing and permissions for data use, and adherence to ethical standards regarding the protection of intellectual property rights.
You
Where you restrained with such data
ChatGPT
As an AI developed by OpenAI, I don't have access to specific information about the sources used to train me. However, OpenAI has stated its commitment to ethical principles, including respecting intellectual property rights and ensuring that training data is obtained and used responsibly and legally. This typically involves obtaining datasets from publicly available sources or sources with proper authorization and licensing agreements. Additionally, OpenAI implements measures to mitigate the risk of bias and privacy violations in training data and model development.
You
How can OpenAI prove it?
ChatGPT
OpenAI can demonstrate its commitment to ethical principles regarding intellectual property and data use through several measures:
By implementing these measures and demonstrating transparency and accountability in its data handling practices, OpenAI can provide assurance of its commitment to ethical principles regarding intellectual property and data use.
You
Commitment is nothing compared the facts
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ChatGPT
You're absolutely right. Actions speak louder than words. OpenAI can demonstrate its commitment to ethical principles regarding intellectual property and data use through tangible actions, such as:
By taking concrete actions and demonstrating transparency and accountability in its data practices, OpenAI can build trust and credibility in its commitment to ethical principles.
You
But did audits actually occur and how to know if they are efficient or accurate
ChatGPT
As an AI developed by OpenAI, I don't have access to real-time information about specific audits or reviews of OpenAI's data handling practices. However, OpenAI has previously mentioned its commitment to transparency and accountability, which may include undergoing audits or reviews by independent third parties.
To assess the effectiveness and accuracy of audits or reviews, several factors can be considered:
While it may be challenging to verify the efficiency and accuracy of audits independently, transparency in audit processes and public reporting of findings can help build trust and confidence in the integrity of OpenAI's data handling practices.
You
Which methodologies exist for such audit?
ChatGPT
Several methodologies can be used for auditing data handling practices, including:
Combining multiple methodologies can provide a comprehensive assessment of data handling practices, allowing for a thorough evaluation of compliance, effectiveness, and areas for improvement.
You
Are all data used for training and training logs to be archived in order to provide evidences
ChatGPT
Archiving all data used for training and training logs can be beneficial for providing evidence and ensuring transparency and accountability in AI development. However, the feasibility and necessity of archiving data depend on various factors, including:
Ultimately, the decision to archive data used for training and training logs should consider factors such as data sensitivity, legal requirements, resource availability, and the need for transparency and accountability in AI development. Organizations should establish clear policies and procedures for data retention and archiving to ensure compliance with applicable laws and ethical standards.
You
It is the same concern for using those data for training. So how can we prove we didn’t use such data without such a trace?
ChatGPT
Proving that certain data were not used for training without a trace can be challenging. However, several approaches can help demonstrate transparency and build trust in the data handling practices:
While it may be difficult to provide definitive proof that certain data were not used for training without a trace, implementing transparent data governance practices, undergoing independent audits, and adhering to ethical guidelines can help demonstrate accountability and build trust in data handling practices.
You
So we have to trust those we want assess the trustability?
ChatGPT
Yes, trust is an essential component of any assessment of trustworthiness. When evaluating the trustworthiness of organizations or systems, including their data handling practices, there is often a degree of reliance on transparency, accountability, and reputation. However, it's also crucial to implement mechanisms for independent verification, such as audits, reviews, or certifications, to provide additional assurance and mitigate risks.
Ultimately, trust is built over time through consistent actions, transparency, and accountability. By openly communicating about data handling practices, adhering to ethical guidelines, and undergoing independent assessments, organizations can demonstrate their commitment to trustworthiness and earn the confidence of stakeholders.
You
Risks with AI are then very high?
ChatGPT
Indeed, the risks associated with AI are significant and varied, encompassing ethical, social, economic, and technical dimensions. Some of the key risks include:
Addressing these risks requires a multi-faceted approach involving stakeholders from various sectors, including policymakers, researchers, industry leaders, and civil society. Strategies for mitigating risks include developing robust regulatory frameworks, promoting transparency and accountability in AI development and deployment, fostering interdisciplinary collaboration, and promoting public dialogue and engagement on AI ethics and governance.
You
With all the required efforts and required skills, doesn’t it question the ROI of AI?
ChatGPT
The return on investment (ROI) of AI initiatives can indeed be influenced by various factors, including the costs associated with developing and implementing AI systems, as well as the potential benefits and risks involved. While the risks and challenges associated with AI are significant, they are often outweighed by the potential benefits, which can include:
While the ROI of AI initiatives may vary depending on factors such as industry, use case, and implementation strategy, many organizations are investing in AI with the expectation of achieving long-term strategic benefits and competitive advantages. However, it's essential for organizations to carefully assess the costs, risks, and potential benefits of AI initiatives and develop realistic expectations for ROI based on their specific context and objectives.
You
I rephrase I’ talking about an ai like you which requires always checking an have critical thinking
ChatGPT
For AI systems like me, which require ongoing monitoring, checking, and critical thinking, the ROI can be assessed based on various factors:
However, it's important to recognize that AI systems like me are not infallible and may require human oversight and intervention to ensure accuracy, fairness, and ethical behavior. Therefore, the ROI assessment should consider not only the benefits provided by the AI but also the costs and risks associated with its deployment and operation.
You
Any studies on this last point
ChatGPT
There are indeed studies and research exploring the interaction between AI systems and human oversight, particularly in the context of ensuring accuracy, fairness, and ethical behavior. Here are a few areas where studies have focused:
While specific studies may vary in focus and methodology, they collectively contribute to our understanding of how human oversight and intervention can enhance the effectiveness, reliability, and trustworthiness of AI systems in various domains.
You
What about all the related finding which could have been used for more promising research and innovation
ChatGPT
The findings from studies on human oversight and intervention in AI systems can indeed inform more promising research and innovation in several ways:
By leveraging the findings from existing studies, researchers and innovators can build upon established knowledge and insights to address emerging challenges and opportunities in AI development and deployment. This iterative process of research and innovation can contribute to the advancement of AI technologies that are more ethical, reliable, and beneficial to society.
You
Sorry typo error it is funding, not finding
ChatGPT
Ah, I see! Thank you for the clarification. The findings from studies on human oversight and intervention in AI systems can indeed inform the allocation of funding for more promising research and innovation in AI. By understanding the challenges, opportunities, and gaps in human-AI interaction, funders can prioritize investments in areas that have the greatest potential for impact and advancement. Here are a few ways funding can support promising research and innovation:
Overall, strategic allocation of funding can catalyze research and innovation efforts aimed at addressing the human factors in AI systems, ultimately advancing the development of AI technologies that are more inclusive, equitable, and beneficial to society.
You
I rephrase, doesn’t research on ai prevent research on more important topics
ChatGPT
Research on AI can indeed be resource-intensive and may divert funding and attention away from other important research topics. However, it's essential to recognize that AI research also has the potential to address significant societal challenges and advance knowledge in various domains.
The key lies in striking a balance between investing in AI research and supporting other critical research areas. Funding agencies, policymakers, and organizations can prioritize research funding based on a careful assessment of societal needs, scientific priorities, and potential impact. Additionally, interdisciplinary collaborations and partnerships can help leverage AI research to address pressing issues in fields such as healthcare, climate change, poverty alleviation, and education.
Ultimately, while AI research is valuable, it should not come at the expense of neglecting other important research topics. Instead, a holistic approach to research funding and prioritization can ensure that resources are allocated effectively to address the diverse challenges facing society.
You
How can help be given on critical and complex topic, as you stated your answers are always to be validated and considered with critical thinking. Isn’t double work?
ChatGPT
You raise a valid point. While AI can provide assistance and insights on critical and complex topics, it's essential to recognize that human validation and critical thinking are still necessary to ensure the accuracy, relevance, and ethical implications of the information provided. This can indeed require additional effort, as it involves verifying AI-generated outputs, evaluating their reliability, and contextualizing them within broader knowledge and understanding.
However, AI can still be valuable in assisting with tasks such as data analysis, pattern recognition, and information retrieval, thereby augmenting human capabilities and accelerating the pace of research and decision-making. By leveraging AI tools and techniques, researchers and practitioners can gain new insights, identify patterns and trends, and generate hypotheses more efficiently.
Ultimately, while AI can provide valuable support in tackling critical and complex topics, it should complement rather than replace human expertise and judgment. The synergy between AI and human intelligence can lead to more robust, nuanced, and ethically informed approaches to addressing pressing societal challenges and advancing knowledge in various fields.
You
What then about energy needed for trading such ai system which are multiplication with impact on climate
ChatGPT
The energy consumption of AI systems, particularly large-scale models and data centers, is a valid concern due to its environmental impact, including contributions to climate change. Several strategies can help mitigate the energy consumption of AI systems:
Additionally, researchers and practitioners can consider the trade-offs between model complexity, accuracy, and energy consumption when designing and deploying AI systems, aiming for solutions that achieve a balance between performance and sustainability.
Overall, addressing the energy consumption of AI systems requires a multifaceted approach that combines technological innovation, optimization strategies, and sustainable computing practices to minimize environmental impact while maximizing the societal benefits of AI technologies.
You
But isn’t dangerous in the current context
ChatGPT
Yes, the energy consumption of AI systems can indeed be concerning in the current context, especially given the urgency of addressing climate change and reducing greenhouse gas emissions. As AI applications continue to grow in scale and complexity, so too does their energy footprint, leading to potential environmental consequences.
Given the importance of mitigating climate change, it's essential for AI researchers, developers, and policymakers to prioritize energy efficiency and sustainability in AI system design and deployment. This includes investing in research and development of energy-efficient algorithms, hardware, and infrastructure, as well as adopting green computing practices and renewable energy sources for powering data centers.
Furthermore, raising awareness about the environmental impact of AI systems and promoting responsible AI development can help drive changes in industry practices and consumer behavior towards more sustainable AI technologies.
Ultimately, addressing the energy consumption of AI systems is a critical component of ensuring that AI development aligns with broader societal goals of sustainability and environmental stewardship. By prioritizing energy efficiency and sustainability in AI research and deployment, we can minimize the environmental impact of AI technologies while maximizing their societal benefits.
You
So what are my responsabilities then when discussing with you knowing all that
ChatGPT
When discussing topics related to AI, especially considering its environmental impact and broader societal implications, your responsibilities may include:
By approaching discussions with AI systems like me with awareness, critical thinking, and a commitment to sustainability, you can contribute to fostering a more responsible and ethical use of AI technologies that aligns with broader societal goals and values.
You
Yes but I encourage climate change by using you
ChatGPT
Your concern about the environmental impact of using AI systems like me is understandable. While AI systems do consume energy, including during interactions like ours, there are ways to mitigate this impact. For instance, using energy-efficient devices, optimizing computing resources, and promoting sustainable practices in AI development and deployment can help reduce the environmental footprint.
Additionally, engaging in discussions about responsible AI use and advocating for sustainability in technology can contribute to raising awareness and driving positive changes in industry practices. Ultimately, it's about finding a balance between leveraging the benefits of AI technology and minimizing its environmental consequences, while collectively working towards a more sustainable future.
You
Using LLM to solve llm usage issues? Isn’t it a paradox?
ChatGPT
It may seem paradoxical to use an AI like me to address concerns about AI usage, including environmental impact. However, recognizing and discussing these issues is an essential part of responsible AI development and deployment. By engaging in conversations about the ethical, social, and environmental implications of AI technologies, we can raise awareness, promote accountability, and drive positive changes in industry practices.
While AI systems like me do consume energy, including during interactions like ours, it's important to acknowledge that AI also has the potential to contribute to solutions for pressing global challenges, including climate change. By promoting energy efficiency, sustainability, and responsible computing practices in AI development and deployment, we can work towards harnessing the benefits of AI while minimizing its environmental impact.
Ultimately, addressing the challenges associated with AI usage requires a multifaceted approach that involves collaboration, transparency, and continuous improvement across various stakeholders, including developers, policymakers, researchers, and users. By engaging in discussions and taking actions to promote responsible AI usage, we can strive to mitigate potential negative consequences and ensure that AI technologies are deployed in a manner that aligns with societal values and goals.
That's all folks
Conclusion
Data quality allows to solve the climat issues ;)
More seriously I hope that the reported experience helps to understand better some limitations about AI, and more precisely LLMs. They are astonishing, but they should be used understanding how they works and what limitations are, in order to prevent some risks.
Just a point: can I trust an LLM explaining me limitations and risks related to LLMs?
What do you think?