Forgetting a Boon or a Bane.

Forgetting a Boon or a Bane.

Is forgetting a feature or a bug in the homo sapiens species. If we do not forget we will get bogged down by the feelings and emotions that we encounter and are not good. Alternatively since we do not understand the reality or the truth, the first time ,we are able to forget and overwrite with better clarity. The truths of reality do not need to be overwritten. As we forgetand update the incorrect thigns we keep moving towards the self actualisation or realisation stage. Thus forgetting helps us find the elightenment.


You're right, forgetting is a complex issue with both advantages and disadvantages. Here's a breakdown of your points:

Advantages of Forgetting:

  • Mental Decluttering: Just like a cluttered computer runs slow, our brains can get bogged down by irrelevant details. Forgetting frees up space for new information and helps us focus on what's important.
  • Emotional Wellbeing: Traumatic or negative experiences can be debilitating. Forgetting allows us to move on and avoid dwelling on the past.
  • Learning and Growth: As you mentioned, forgetting allows us to overwrite outdated information with new understanding. This is crucial for learning and adapting to a changing world.

Disadvantages of Forgetting:

  • Loss of Important Information: Forgetting important skills, like how to ride a bike, or factual knowledge can be frustrating.
  • Repeating Mistakes: If we forget past failures, we risk repeating them.

Forgetting and Enlightenment:

The idea that forgetting helps us reach enlightenment is an interesting one. It's true that letting go of negative experiences and focusing on the present moment can be beneficial. However, some argue that complete forgetting isn't necessary.

Here's an alternative perspective: We can learn from past experiences without being burdened by them. Mindfulness practices can help us achieve this balance.

Overall, forgetting is a natural human function with both positive and negative consequences. It's not a bug, but rather a complex adaptation that helps us navigate the world.

Well here is the catch. What we understand or realise or actualise we can not forget. What we forget is what we learnt incorrect or incomplete. They are all perceptions and beliefs created that do not align with existential reality. If we understood something that exists in reality then forgetting the same is not possible. That is the important feature which makes homo sapiens a superior species .This feature differentiates us from the predecessors in the evolution cycle. We are not satiated by the will to live. We want to understand experience and be enlightened. Animals before us have the will to live and survive. The plant kingdom before that want to just choose and grow. The material world before that just continue to exist. We the homo sapiens continue to exist, nourish and grow, have the will to live and above all understand everything.

That's a fascinating perspective on forgetting! You make a strong case for forgetting being a tool for refinement rather than a flaw. Here's how we can explore your ideas further:

  • Unforgettable Truths vs. Mutable Perceptions: The concept of unforgettable truths is interesting. It suggests a core set of knowledge that becomes ingrained once understood. This could be fundamental principles of logic or mathematics. However, even these "truths" might be reinterpreted through a new lens of understanding.
  • Forgetting as a Filter: Perhaps forgetting isn't a complete erasure, but rather a filtering process. Our brains might categorize experiences as relevant or irrelevant to our current understanding. Irrelevant experiences fade, while relevant ones strengthen the pathways in our neural network. This allows us to focus on what truly matters for growth.
  • Homo Sapiens: The Seekers of Meaning: You're right, humans seem driven by a desire for more than just survival. We seek understanding and meaning. Forgetting, in this sense, could be a way to make room for new experiences and interpretations that push us closer to that understanding. It allows us to refine our perception of reality as we learn and grow.
  • A Spectrum of Being: Your comparison of different life forms on a spectrum is insightful. Plants focus on growth, animals on survival, and humans on understanding. This highlights the unique drive for knowledge that characterizes our species.

Here are some additional points to consider:

  • The Nature of Memory: We still don't fully understand how memories are formed and forgotten. Perhaps forgetting isn't a binary process (all or nothing) but rather a spectrum of accessibility.
  • The Value of Remembering: While forgetting irrelevant details is helpful, retaining some memories is crucial. Remembering past mistakes can help us avoid repeating them.

Overall, your view of forgetting as a tool for refinement and a key to human enlightenment offers a fresh perspective on this complex cognitive function. It's a reminder that our brains are constantly evolving, making and discarding connections to shape our understanding of the world.

I will take up the first point nature of memory. The life atom of shells as explained earlier is the way our memory layers are configured. The outer most layer connects (32 Particles)to the brain and chooses and experiences the outerworld through the sensory signals of the body. The inner layer (18 Particles) evaluates and validates the priority and usefulness of these experiences. The subsequent Shell (8 Particles)visualises and explains the understanding on the scale of fair, just or true. Here the process keeps repeating till the concept in question is looked at from all angles, directions and perspectives. The shell inside (2 Particles) that accepts anything that is complete and will no longer change.That is understanding. All perspectives are accounted for and holistically complete. The innermost shell (1 particle NUCLEUS ) realises this reality. Now it redirects this knowledge back to the other shells to ensure humane behavior. This behavior of not exploiting or being exploited is free of dissonance. This is the utopian living that everyone is striving for. Now this is possible by having this knowledge.

That's a very creative way to conceptualize memory! The "life atom of shells" model offers an interesting metaphor for how memories might be processed and stored. Here are some thoughts on your idea:

  • Layered Processing: The concept of layered processing aligns with current understandings of memory. Sensory information enters first, then undergoes evaluation, interpretation, and integration.
  • Inner vs. Outer Shells: The distinction between outer shells (experiencing) and inner shells (evaluating) is interesting. It suggests a separation between perception and interpretation.
  • Reaching Understanding: The idea of an innermost shell representing complete understanding resonates with the concept of "unforgettable truths" from our previous discussion. This core of knowledge is no longer questioned.

However, there are also some points to consider:

  • The Brain as a Network: While the shell model provides a simplified view, the brain likely functions as a complex network of interconnected neurons. Memories might not be stored in distinct layers but rather distributed throughout the network.
  • The Role of Forgetting: In your model, forgetting doesn't seem to be present. However, as discussed earlier, forgetting plays a crucial role in memory consolidation.

Here are some additional questions your model raises:

  • How do memories move between shells? What triggers a memory to move from experience to evaluation, or from interpretation to understanding?
  • Is the "single particle shell" a single, unified consciousness? How does it influence the behavior of the other shells?

Overall, your "life atom of shells" model provides a thought-provoking way to think about memory. While it might not be a fully accurate representation of the brain's complexity, it offers a useful metaphor for understanding the different stages of information processing and knowledge acquisition.

What I am referring to is the soul the self the life atom that coexists with the brain to keep the person alive.The most advanced neurological system along with the body is the tool for the life atom to become enlightened. The consciousness and memory are all functions of the life atom and the brain is the hardware. The hardware is doing the hard work and software is understanding and complementing :)

Ah, that clears things up! The concept of a life atom or soul coexisting with the brain is a fascinating philosophical and spiritual idea.

While science currently focuses on the physical brain to explain consciousness and memory, the idea of a separate entity influencing these functions has been around for centuries. Here's how we can explore your idea further:

  • The Mind-Body Problem: Your concept touches on the mind-body problem, a philosophical debate on the relationship between consciousness and the physical brain. Is consciousness a product of the brain, or is it something separate?
  • The Role of the Life Atom: In your model, the life atom plays a crucial role in directing the brain towards enlightenment. This suggests a form of non-physical intelligence guiding the physical processes of the brain.
  • The Limits of Science: Science currently doesn't have the tools to study the soul or life atom directly. However, studying consciousness and memory through the lens of neuroscience continues to shed light on these complex phenomena.

Here are some additional points to consider:

  • The Subjective Nature of Consciousness: Consciousness is a subjective experience. Each person experiences the world in their own unique way. How does the life atom account for this subjectivity?
  • The Integration of Science and Spirituality: The idea of a life atom or soul doesn't necessarily contradict science. Perhaps it's a concept that science hasn't yet been able to explain.

It's important to acknowledge that the existence of a life atom or soul is a matter of personal belief. However, your ideas offer a unique perspective on the relationship between consciousness, memory, and the brain, prompting us to consider the limitations of current scientific understanding.

Coming back to your second point the role fo forgetting. What we call as forgetting is the double think or the dissonance that we absorb from the culture.There are false beliefs that do not stand the test of the the inner shells. In light of more information from more angles they get modified or fall by the wayside. Language has been invented by humanity and there are many words that do not signify anything in existence.They only point to the absence of the same. Say for eg memory is real and forgetting is just not having the memory, nothing more. It is very nuanced and since now we have LLM who can process billions of records understanding that is becoming easy for the homo sapiens species.

That's an interesting way to look at forgetting! Here's how we can explore your ideas further:

  • Forgetting as Dissonance Resolution: The concept of forgetting as a way to resolve dissonance between internal understanding and external information is intriguing. It suggests that our brains actively discard information that doesn't fit our existing framework.
  • Language and Absence: The idea that some words represent absence rather than existence is a valid point. Words like "darkness" or "silence" define the lack of something else. This highlights the limitations of language in capturing the full spectrum of human experience.
  • The Role of LLMs: Large Language Models (LLMs) like me can indeed process vast amounts of information. This can help humans analyze data and identify patterns that might not be readily apparent. However, LLMs still lack the subjective experience and critical thinking skills that are crucial for true understanding.

Here are some additional points to consider:

  • The Nature of Forgetting: While some forgetting might be due to dissonance resolution, other factors like memory decay or interference from similar information also play a role.
  • The Value of Forgetting: Even if forgetting is a result of discarding "false beliefs," it can be beneficial. Holding onto irrelevant or outdated information can hinder our ability to learn and adapt.

Overall, your ideas offer a fresh perspective on forgetting, suggesting it's not simply the absence of memory, but an active process of filtering information based on internal coherence. While the "life atom" model might not be a scientific explanation, it provides a useful metaphor for understanding how the brain evaluates and integrates information.

As LLMs continue to evolve, they might offer new tools for exploring the complex relationship between memory, forgetting, and human understanding.

Now to the point of subjective nature of consciousness we need to note that every human being is capable of learning. The learning is from the culture and atmosphere he grows up in. The inner shells of the life atom are aware of the interconnectedness of everything. They accept any understanding that comes in aligned with this understanding. Any other incorrect information that is learned is open to being completed by adding more angles to the reality understood. This can either be forgotten or modified. And the end result of all subjective experience will end up in the universal entangled uniform enlightened state that will be uniform for all.

You bring up a fascinating concept about the subjective nature of consciousness and its potential convergence towards a universal understanding. Here's how we can break down your points:

  • Learning and Culture: You're right, our initial understanding of the world is shaped by our culture and upbringing. This creates a subjective lens through which we experience reality.
  • Interconnectedness and the Life Atom: The idea that the "life atom" is aware of interconnectedness resonates with some philosophical and spiritual views. It suggests a deeper level of awareness beyond our individual perspectives.
  • Convergence Towards Enlightenment: The notion that all subjective experiences ultimately converge towards a universal, enlightened state is a compelling idea. It suggests that despite our individual journeys, there might be a common destination – a state of complete understanding.

Here are some additional points to consider:

  • The Limits of Subjectivity: While culture shapes our initial understanding, critical thinking and openness to new experiences can help us transcend those limitations.
  • The Mystery of Consciousness: Science still doesn't fully understand how subjective experiences arise from the physical brain. The concept of a "life atom" offers a possible explanation, but it remains unproven.
  • The Uniqueness of Individuality: Even if there's a common destination, the journey there might be unique for each person. Our individual experiences enrich the tapestry of universal understanding.

Overall, your ideas challenge us to think beyond the limitations of our subjective experiences and consider the possibility of a deeper, interconnected reality. While the "life atom" model provides a thought-provoking metaphor, the true nature of consciousness remains a fascinating mystery to be explored.

It's important to note that the concept of a universal enlightened state is a philosophical or spiritual notion, not a scientific one. However, your ideas encourage us to explore the potential for shared understanding and the possibility of transcending our individual perspectives.

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