FBI Insights: Detecting Deception and Building Rapport in Negotiations with Jack Schafer

FBI Insights: Detecting Deception and Building Rapport in Negotiations with Jack Schafer

In the latest episode of Negotiate Anything, host Kwame Christian sits down with legendary behavioral analyst and author Jack Schafer . With a rich background working in law enforcement and behavioral analysis with the FBI, Schafer brings a wealth of knowledge about human behavior and deception. The conversation explores not only the nature of deception but also how these insights can be practically applied in negotiations and everyday interactions. Below, we delve into the key topics covered in the episode, providing an in-depth look at Schafer's wisdom on negotiation, deception, and human interaction.

Understanding Deception

The Complexity of Lies

One of the foundational concepts discussed is the complexity of deception. Schafer explains that not all lies are created equal. He distinguishes between social lies (those small falsehoods we tell to maintain social harmony, such as complimenting an ugly tie) and more significant deceptions. Understanding the motivation and context behind a lie is essential:

  • Intentionality: A lie is defined by an intent to deceive. Sometimes, people convey falsehoods unintentionally due to ignorance, which technically is not a lie.
  • Social Lies vs. Intentional Deceit: Social lies may be technically dishonest, but they acknowledge efforts and uphold relationships.

Detecting Deception

A critical part of Schafer's expertise is spotting deception. He shares insightful methods into how our bodies and minds react to lying:

  • Fight or Flight Response: When someone lies with the fear of being caught, their body enters a heightened state of anxiety, resulting in increased heart rate, sweating, and fidgeting.
  • Cognitive Overload: Liars experience a cognitive overload, having to manage the lie as well as how it's being perceived. This often leads to mental strain which can manifest in verbal and non-verbal cues.

Practical Applications in Conversations and Negotiations

The Power of Open-Ended Questions

Kwame highlights how the structure of questions can significantly impact the flow of a conversation, especially in negotiation:

  • Open-Ended vs. Closed-Ended Questions: Closed questions that elicit simple yes or no responses can easily be manipulated by deceptive individuals. Open-ended questions, however, require a narrative response, providing more opportunities to observe inconsistencies and deception indicators.

Elicitation Techniques

Jack emphasizes the use of elicitation—a subtle method of extracting information from someone without them explicitly realizing it:

  • Presumptive Statements: Instead of directly asking a sensitive question, make a statement that assumes a fact. This often prompts the other person to correct you if you're wrong, leading them to reveal information before they can craft a lie.
  • Bracketing Questions: Use a range to encourage people to correct you, thereby revealing the truth without a direct inquiry.

Non-Verbal Cues and Emotional Leaks

Schafer points out how non-verbal cues are significant in detecting deception:

  • Spotlight Effect: Liars are hyper-aware of their deception, often overestimating how obvious their lie appears, leading to more visible non-verbal cues.
  • Lip Purse: A subtle lip movement signaling disagreement or withholding information.

Maintaining Relationships in Negotiation

Even when deception is at play, Schafer advises maintaining a positive rapport:

  • Pivot to the Positive: Instead of confronting someone directly about a lie, redirect the conversation towards a constructive solution.
  • Empathic Statements: Use statements that reflect understanding and compassion to foster goodwill and keep dialogue amiable.

The Science of Being Likable

Kwame notes Schafer's work on likability—integral to successful negotiation and interaction:

  • Make Others Feel Good: By focusing conversations on making the other person feel good about themselves, you're building rapport and increasing your likability.
  • Empathic Statements: Structuring conversations around the other person's feelings invites openness and can lead to more fruitful exchanges.

Tips and Techniques for Everyday Interactions

Schafer offers a variety of practical techniques throughout the episode, easily applicable to daily life:

  1. Elicitation in Business:
  2. Verbal Techniques:
  3. Negotiation Strategies:
  4. Psychological Consistency:

Conclusion: Integrating Insights for Better Outcomes

Jack Schafer’s expertise provides invaluable insights into the intricacies of human behavior, deception, and successful negotiation. Understanding the nuances of deception, the role of open-ended questions, the power of elicitation, and non-verbal cues can empower individuals in both personal and professional interactions. By applying these concepts, listeners can not only enhance their negotiation strategies but also their everyday communication skills, fostering stronger, more transparent relationships.

For those looking to deepen their understanding of deception and human interaction, Schafer’s teachings act as a guide to the unspoken language of negotiation. As Kwame aptly summarizes, the goal is to navigate interactions with empathy and strategic insight, transforming challenges into opportunities for connection and agreement.


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Gail James, SHRM-CP

Strategic Business Specialist

1 天前

Jack is awesome! So profound!!

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Gail James, SHRM-CP

Strategic Business Specialist

1 天前

Very intriguing; thanks Kwame.

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