??? EP. 5 - TRUE: Zero Waste & Waste Management
Silo Solving | EP. 5 | Guests Celeste McMickle and Lily Baum Pollans with Host, Danelle Marqui Brown

??? EP. 5 - TRUE: Zero Waste & Waste Management

In this episode’s guest pairing, the Director of Client Solutions for TRUE Certification for Zero Waste , the first certification program of its kind that is dedicated to measuring, improving, and recognizing zero waste performance ( Celeste McMickle ) - AND - the author of Resisting Garbage: The Politics of Waste Management in American Cities and Assistant Professor of Urban Policy and Planning ( Lily Pollans ) officially meet for the first time to converse with me on the topic of “TRUE: Zero Waste & Waste Management.”

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The TRUE (Total Resource Use & Efficiency) Zero Waste certification system is complementary to LEED and other green rating systems.

TRUE is owned and administered by Green Business Certification Inc. (GBCI), the premier organization independently recognizing excellence in green business industry performance and practice globally.

(Image 1) TRUE Logo and  (Image 2) Cover of the book, Resisting Garbage: The Politics of Waste Management in American Cities, by Lily Baum Pollans
(Image 1) TRUE Logo and (Image 2) Cover of the book, Resisting Garbage: The Politics of Waste Management in American Cities, by Lily Baum Pollans

About the Guests

Celeste McMickle is the Director of Client Solutions for TRUE certification with the USGBC. She helps support client understanding of the TRUE rating system and promote its effectiveness to the wider community. TRUE certification aims to support facilities and businesses in achieving their zero waste goals by providing a clear path to certification using a points-based rating system and educational tools such as the?TRUE Advisor program. Celeste is trained as an architect and has been working in the field of sustainability since 2006. She is currently serving in her second term as the vice-chair of the Brooklyn Solid Waste Advisory Board and is a certified Master Composter and Permaculture Designer. Celeste holds a Bachelor of Architecture from Syracuse University and a Master of Science in Sustainable Design from the San Francisco Institute of Architecture.

TRUE Website: https://true.gbci.org/

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Lily Baum Pollans is the author of Resisting Garbage: The Politics of Waste Management in American Cities (2021) and assistant professor of urban policy and planning at Hunter College in New York. A main thread of her work examines institutional and infrastructural transformation of solid waste systems in U.S. cities and evaluates the ability of municipalities to influence consumption. A second set of ongoing projects examines urban food systems and food waste, and explores the consequences—technological, social, economic and ecological—of ongoing change in urban food provisioning systems.

Bio: https://www.hunterurban.org/faculty/lily-baum-pollans

Book: https://utpress.utexas.edu/9781477323700/?

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THANKS to this episode’s guests!

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Show Notes

00:00? ? ?Episode Begins

00:42? ? ?Introduction of Guests and Theme

04:26? ? ?Silo Breaker (Ice Breaker) Exercise?

08:50? ? ?What is TRUE ((Zero Waste Certification System)

13:42? ? ?Waste Management, Planning, And Economics

19:28? ? ?Silo Solving for Waste Management in America

26:33? ? ?There’s Ideas about Carbon Taxes. What about Waste Taxes?

26:50? ? ?A Reflection on Labor History & Work Dignity within Waste Sector

47:40? ? ?Examples of TRUE in Action

55:21? ? ?Food Systems & Waste Management

01:04:46? Episode Wrap-up

01:05:52? Episode Concludes

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Episode -Themed Playlist

Creating a playlist based on the theme of waste and/or zero-waste was a challenge of sorts. Yet, by creating this playlist, I was reminded of how many catchy songs, particularly from women artists, have a strong consumerism narrative. Songs that critique and/or pose reflection for our collective consumption habits, as a culture, tend to be released by male artists. Do you think there is a correlation between that observation and stats such as this, "Women drive 70-80% of all consumer purchasing?"

Also, you may wonder why a clip of Dr. Martin Luther King's last speech is on this playlist. As mentioned within this episode, Dr. King was in Memphis, TN, to support a sanitation workers' strike, when his life was taken. In the episode, we discuss a bit about some of the social legacies and stains, surrounding the waste management sector and American labor history. Such things need to be addressed in order to create circular economic and ethical systems.

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About the Limited Podcast Series: Silo Solving

The?Silo Solving?podcast aims to foster and discuss sustainable and innovative solutions for our shared common goals. In each episode, I pair two guests from various walks of professional and business life, to step with me outside the realms of siloed-thinking. These human-centered and solutions-based conversations roam within nuanced crevices of thoughts, colors outside of the lines of typical business- and industry-based narratives, by incorporating the liberal arts (i.e., the humanities, arts, natural and social sciences, etc.) into the mix.?

By modeling and creating such interdisciplinary conversations, new bridges of thought can provide opportunities to connect dots and co-create solutions.

Whether you are a leader, a manager, a team player, or even an entrepreneur, regardless of your work background or industry, these intersectional conversations are for the collective workforce.?

A seed that sprouted into this podcast was in part due to my experience as one of 120 participants selected to be the?1st Technology & Innovation class of the U.S. LinkedIn Creator Accelerator Program (LICAP), during the fall of 2022. Thank you again,?LinkedIn, for the opportunity, to learn, discover, and develop as a creator, over those 6 weeks! It laid a great foundation for the development and production of this limited series podcast, my first podcast ever! I was able to apply so much of what I learned through the?#LICAP?/?#LICreatorAccelerator, to the creation of my podcast this winter.

This episode touches upon topics such as: #ZeroWaste #GHG #Waste #WasteManagement #CircularEconomy #TRUE #TRUEZeroWaste #UpCycle #Sustainability #SystemsThinking #Circularity

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