Emotional Validation – A How-To for Leaders (Part 2)
Todd A Fonseca MS, ACC
Be You. Lead Brilliantly. Transform Everything. | Certified Executive and Team Coach | Body Language Training Expert | Former Medical Device Executive
If you missed Part 1 or the original article "This just isn't the same company anymore," which inspired this guide on emotional validation, I encourage you to revisit those before delving into the article below.
WARNING! This isn't your typical LinkedIn article with four bullet points of content. Instead, it contains a narrative interaction. I've chosen this format because many clients have expressed that while they grasp the concepts in bullet-point articles, they often seek real-life examples. After the narrative, you'll find key takeaways summarizing the encounter and an analysis of how these principles were applied in practice. I greatly value all feedback to help improve these articles.
With that said, let's get to it!
Refresher
In Part 1, we introduced Marlene and Sherill. Marlene tried her best to retain Sherill at the company, but it didn't go as planned. Instead of emotionally validating Sherill, Marlene unintentionally invalidated her experiences and primarily listened to respond (listening levels 1 and 2).
So, what now? Let's take a leap into another narrative, set in the same situation but with Marlene in this new universe equipped with additional skills. Let's see how she handles it.
As in Part 1, we'll explore this from Marlene's perspective. She's just learned that Sherill has scheduled a last-minute meeting.
The Narrative
"Hey Henry," I say, emerging from my office. "Sherill has requested a meeting with me in half an hour."
"I saw that," Henry turns from his monitor and hands me a manila folder. "I've adjusted your calendar to free up some time, and here are the notes for this afternoon's presentation."
"Thanks for that, and sorry for creating more work, but would you mind making some buffer time after Sherill's meeting? I don't want to rush our conversation, and if it runs long, I want to give her the time she needs."
"Of course, anything else?"
"Actually, yes, take my phone. I don't want to be distracted by it. I'm going to take a walk to clear my head before the meeting."
I head for the stairs and choose the more challenging path. After two flights, I stroll through the halls, observing engineers in the labs immersed in their work. A quick check of my watch, and I head back. There's nothing like some physical activity to reset my mind.
As I reach the last step into the corridor, I spot Sherill approaching my office.
"Hey Sherill."
"Oh," she says. "I'm sorry, I didn't expect to see you here."
We walk together. "Let's go to my office. Do you need anything to drink?"
She takes a seat, her gaze fixed on the floor. I retrieve two small bottles of water.
"What did you want to meet about?" Even as I ask, I sense that she already knows that I know.
Sherill fiddles with her watch, tucking it under her sleeve, then back out again. "I've been offered a job at another company... and... I'm thinking about taking it."
Okay, it's out there now.
"Oh Sherill," I say. "It looks like it's really weighing on you."
"Yes, yes, it is..." Sherill brushes her hands on the edge of the chair. "I've loved this company, what we do, the work. It's been life-changing for me in so many ways."
I nod, encouraging her forward.
"But... things are so different now," she continues, taking a sip of her water. "The last year or so, we've laid off so many people... friends... people I've really come to care about. And the projects, many have been canceled or are on indefinite hold. I just don't know where things are going anymore. We've had a hiring freeze for months, the work is piling up, and I'm falling behind. I'm not doing my best work anymore, and honestly, I'm feeling so guilty about even considering leaving and putting you and everyone else in such a bind. But I'm not sleeping. My partner has been pushing me to quit for months. They say I'm not the same person anymore. I can't keep going on like this..."
She looks me in the eye.
"I'm sorry," she says. "I didn't mean to dump on you like this."
I can't help but feel for her. "It sounds like you're carrying a lot – guilt, responsibilities, feeling like you need to keep everything going for everyone else, like being trapped."
She grimaces. "A lot for sure. I don't know if I feel trapped so much as defeated. I'm not usually this person. It's not who I am, which is why I can't stay."
I grab the box of Kleenex off my desk.
"You started what, about five years ago, right?"
"Yeah," she says, wiping a tissue under her eye. "You know, it's so different now. It's like a completely different place."
"Do you mind me asking, what first brought you here?"
Sherill adjusts her jacket, straightening. "My grandpa was an incredible man. I learned more from him than any human being, and he died of diabetes while I was still at uni."
"I'm so sorry."
"Thanks. It was because of him I was on a mission to work somewhere where I could make a difference with this disease. When I read about what the company was doing and all the amazing breakthroughs, I did more research. The company's mission and the posts I saw online from patients, employees, doctors, they were all so heartwarming. When I finally met with people at your booth at the career fair, they were all so real, welcoming, and knowledgeable. I couldn't believe it."
"Sounds exciting."
"It was. I interviewed and got an offer the same day. I was so inspired, and when I first got here, that same energy, it was everywhere."
"Was there a particularly powerful experience you've been a part of?"
"There was. We were working on getting the next-generation device approved by the FDA. Just before the Thanksgiving holiday, we got this huge letter full of questions. I still remember. It was Monday morning when it came in, and everyone was leaving for the holiday that week. But we all sat down, divided up the questions, and decided to have draft responses by Wednesday before we left. Wednesday! Can you believe that? Two days! And you know what? We did it! We met that Wednesday afternoon, reviewed them all, commented on each other's work, and left for break. But we kept working all through that weekend, trading messages, polishing our answers... It's funny thinking about that now."
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"Why's that?"
"Maybe it's the cloud of time, but even though I worked through that holiday, I loved it. I remember spending time with family, playing games, watching football, eating too much, but I also remember cranking out answers. It was both exhausting and energizing. And you know what? We sent all our responses back to the FDA the Tuesday after we came back. Crazy, right?"
"I remember this," I say. "You all got approval a month later, in time for the holiday patient party!"
"Exactly!"
"Quite an accomplishment and set quite a bar," I say.
"That's the thing, we weren't trying to set any bar. We were all so motivated to get this therapy out. We weren't doing it for a bonus, for management, for the street, we did it because it was important."
I sit back and reflect on how impressed I am with this young woman. Whatever she decides and wherever she goes, she will make an impact. "It's an incredible story and experience."
"It was," she says. "...and it's not that way anymore."
There it is. The pain is back. "It sounds like you're mourning a loss. A loss of something really special."
"I am and I'm not the only one. Do you think the leadership team even gets this?"
I understand what she's feeling. If I'm honest, I've felt the same. But it's not about me. "It sounds like you've been betrayed."
"Betrayed?"
I continue, "Everything the company once was, what made it special, the secret sauce, the community, the purpose, the impact, it was taken away."
"Yes, I suppose so," Shirell says. "I don't even know why or how, I just know it's gone now. The mission, it's still there, but different..."
"...Like the heart is gone?" I say. "...the shell of everything is still there, but what's inside is different."
"Yes... exactly."
"Shirell, you're so self-aware and thoughtful. It's not easy having this kind of conversation."
"Honestly," she says. "I thought you would try to talk me out of this. I really appreciate you taking the time to sit with me and really listen."
"Of course."
Review and Concepts
How did the Marlene in this universe do?
What did she do differently?? How did Sherill respond?
Here are some points to consider.? This Marlene listened at the “Listen to Hear” and “Listen to Understand” levels.?
Listen to Hear - At this level, one pays full attention to what their employees are saying, without distractions or preconceptions. This level of listening requires motivation and effort, as it involves focusing entirely on the employee's words and expressions.
Listen to Understand - This is the deepest and most effective level of listening for a leader. It involves not only hearing what is being said but also understanding the underlying feelings, thoughts, and motivations behind the words. For example, when an employee discusses workload challenges, they might be expressing deeper concerns about work-life balance or seeking more support. Leaders who listen to understand are able to pick up on these subtle cues and address the core issues, not just the surface-level problems. This level of listening fosters a deeper connection, trust, and empathy between the leader and their employees, leading to a more harmonious and productive workplace.
With these listening levels in mind, let’s revisit Marlene and Sherill’s interaction. Overall, notice how there is hardly any inner dialogue from Marlene unlike the narrative in Part 1.? She’s focused completely on Sherill who is able to share much more as a result.
Before the Meeting (setting the intention)
Throughout the Meeting
The Close
Special Notes
To be clear, validation is the first step not the end.? We still have a lot to discuss about her future and where to go from here, but the key is to meet Sherill where she is first before any of the rest of it.?
If you’d like to know how to progress the conversation and what you think about this approach, let me know in the comments.
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Human Resources Executive | SVP Human Resources | Optimizing People, Culture, and Organization Strategies for Growth
10 个月Thanks for creating this wonderful example, Todd. A clear reminder that simple isn’t always easy.
Chief Executive Officer/Healthcare Executive/Independent Board Member
10 个月Very well conceived and written, Todd. What I beaucoup appreciate is that you didn’t end this example with Marlene saying “Why don’t we connect next week and talk about an action plan” or “What can I do or what resources do you need to help you through this process”. Validating and then sitting comfortably with the 2 level listening standing on its own… yes! No need to finish with an action plan or resource identification work for Sherill . Thank you! I’ll be better next time!
Quality Management | Project Leadership | Risk Mitigation | Change Leadership | Audit & Compliance
10 个月Todd Fonseca another great article!! Thank you for sharing your wisdom! I knew that you were a great leader when I first talked to you ??
Loving the article Todd!
Vice President Professional Relations and Fellows Strategy, Smith + Nephew
10 个月Your timing for this article is impeccable. I read it this morning and just got off the phone with a member of my team where I had your wisdom chirping in my ear during the call, (picture a little miniature Todd standing on my shoulder ??) making me more present and a better listener. Always the mentor and coach! Thank you!