"Do you have any other children?"
Adam Ottley-Porter reflects on how his attitude to questions about his children has changed since losing his son Joshua.

"Do you have any other children?"

I doubt I’m the only one that has experienced this and wondered how on earth to respond.

Picture the scene, I’m in the park with my daughter Abigail, who is 2 ? years old (she’s now 3 ? and counting, and this still happens often). She’s on the swing, having a fantastic time, and I end up having a bit of a chat with the other parent also with their child.

“How old is your daughter? Oh lovely, is she your 1st/only/eldest?” or perhaps “are you thinking about having another child?”, “it would be lovely to have a sibling for her I’m sure.”

Finding the right response

It’s amazing how unintentionally loaded some simple words can be. I’m unsure how to respond, because my son Joshua, Abigail’s younger brother, died when my wife was 41 weeks pregnant. This was just a few weeks prior and my whole world felt like it was in pieces.

Initially, my instinct was to just roll with it: “yeah she’s our 1st” and ignore the rest and politely change subject or “no siblings no”. I imagine this is a lot of people’s reactions too. Why go into it with some person I likely won’t ever see again? Why should Joan behind the checkout in Tesco know about my grief?

Normalising the conversation

However, my approach to this has changed a lot since those first couple of weeks. Now my response is a variation of the same theme, “she is our eldest, her younger brother died”. Sometimes, it’s simply stating he died, sometimes it’s “he died when my wife was 41 weeks pregnant”.

Others may or may not agree, but I’ve decided I don’t really care if talking about my son makes other people uncomfortable. Why can’t I talk about him just like I talk about my daughter? Why should I hide my son’s existence, or the horrendous journey my family have gone through? So I don’t. I’m honest. I want to normalise the conversation.

If someone’s spouse dies is that person expected to never mention them again? So why are people made to feel they can’t bring up their children who have died? I want to say his name, I want to keep his memory and what short life he had alive in some way.

Changing the conversation

Also, maybe the conversation needs to change more widely anyway. So often people are asked ‘so when are you having kids?’ (which seems to happen immediately after anyone has got married). That couple might be desperate for kids, or have been trying for years and it hasn’t happened due to fertility issues. Or, perhaps they’ve experienced miscarriage or stillbirth.

When someone is asked ‘so when are you going to have another one?’, maybe they have been trying and again have had problems conceiving, or experienced miscarriage or stillbirth.

Normalising baby loss

One thing I now know from being part of this community, is just how common it is for women and couples to have experienced baby loss.

So many people in our lives have told us they too had a miscarriage or stillbirth, and we had no idea. So perhaps by normalising the fact this loss happens, it will make people think a bit more about how loaded these questions can be.

They may then be more sensitive to the fact that there is far more to people’s story than what we might see when we walk past them in the street, speak to them in our office communal area or even at friend/family events.

Nora Tookey

Client Implementation at Deutsche Bank

1 年

Thanks for sharing. This question took me by surprise when my first child had their “meet the teacher” day at school a week ago. I had my middle son on my arm when another mum asked if he was my youngest and I wanted to say no but just said yes, i actually had to leave after. My baby was stillborn at 35 weeks. It’s only been 7 weeks, so emotionally I’m not quite ready to speak openly about it but hopefully will be in the future.

Claire Thomas

Sales / commercial leader passionate about creating great client and employee experience

1 年

I love the bravery of answering the question honestly and normalising the conversation about baby loss whilst also educating others to think more carefully about the well intended questions that can have such an impact on others.

Ayesha Lister

Obstetrics and Gynaecology Medical Secretary at NHS England

1 年

Thank you for sharing this story. I thought I was the only one who felt this strange feeling when someone asks how many children I have. Alot of the time my response is I should have 2 little girls instead I just have Bethany with me. I too, do not care if it makes others uncomfortable anymore as I want to talk about my daughter, Hannah just as much as my first daughter Bethany. And I think, that everyone should be able to talk about their angels.

Claire Jeffrey

Instructional Designer ?????? eLearning Developer ?? Learning Content Creator ?????? Mental Health First Aider ?? BSc PgDip AssocCIPD

1 年

Thank you so much for sharing. Someone in my company announced they were pregnant today and asked me when I was thinking about another baby as our daughter is almost 1. They didn’t know that I have another child before my daughter, my darling son who we lost at 22 weeks. Baby loss is very real and sadly happens too often. We need more people to share to break the silence around loss xxx

Vanessa Whiteside-Oram

Marketing & Innovation Specialist at Engage Works & Flux Innovation

1 年

Thank you for sharing this important topic. I used to protect other people's feelings by not mentioning the tragic circumstances around my daughter's death, but not anymore. It might make them uncomfortable for a few minutes, but baby loss is real and should not be silenced because it makes people sad and awkward to hear about. I have also learned to accept that it is not my burden to bear if it does make people feel this way. It's sad and disappointing how many people avoid the subject of baby loss - as if didn't happen because it is sad/awkward/unimaginable to think about, as if that life-changing chunk of our lives can be easily clipped out and never mentioned again.

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