No. ?Not really in SaaS. At least not well. Even though many sales execs believe they can.
This is a bit of a myth. ?The very, very best in SaaS that are truly curious can often sell almost any product well. ?But this is a narrow group of the best of the best.
The classic “Sell Me This Pen” test still has value, even in SaaS. There is no perfect answer to this test, but it does show a salesperson’s ability to think, to convey enthusiasm, to understand a value proposition, etc.? It may have gone out of fashion, but I think it still shows sales smarts.
- Good at Outbound, but not so much Inbound. Or vice-versa.
- Good only when selling with a brand to back them, but not so much without one.? This is so important.? The playbook is so different when you are #1 or #2 in an established market.? Because the prospects already sort of know what they are looking for.
- Good when selling — but where they have a lot of processes and support.? Many reps from larger SaaS companies, especially with mid-size or larger ACVs, melt when they have to do their own demos, answer tougher questions, lack the right collateral, etc.
- Good when competing for budget, but terrible when competing with an aggressive direct competitor.? Sales reps trained in an environment without a strong, direct competitor often seriously struggle once there is one. It’s such a different toolkit, to sell against a very similar, aggressive competitor.
- Good at selling products similar to what they know, but struggle to sell more complicated or vertically-focused products.? It’s really hard for most reps to transition into a more challenging or more complicated selling environment.? Be careful here.? As a rule, hire reps that sold something harder to sell and more complicated than your own product. Even if just a tiny bit more.
- They also can be good at one price point, but often not at others:A sales rep that is good at handling 50–100 leads a month and closing them quickly at a $3k-$10k price point rarely can handle all the skills necessary to close a $250k deal. Moving from one stakeholder to many is a very different skill set. As is managing a deal through a lengthy sales cycle vs. a quick close.And vice versa. A skilled field rep good at $100k+ deals rarely has the patience, planning and organizational skills — let alone the speed — to close 10x as many SMB deals per month as bigger deals. They usually melt when they have to ramp up their volume, speed, and close rate.
For the most part, controlling for (x) stage and (y) price point works. Hire a few reps that have sold at your stage and your price point that you also believe in and would buy from — that’s the trick in the early-ish days.
And a great VP of Sales and sometimes a great Rev Ops team can train a rep to learn new skills. So once you have a great VP of Sales, let her figure a lot of this out.? They’ll hire folks … you wouldn’t hire yourself in sales.? Up to a point, if you believe in your VP of Sales, you have to let them.
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Jason M. Lemkin I agree and disagree. At its core, sales is about competencies and you need to hire for them before anything else. These are the things you can't teach - I have 6 in particular I hire for and those take precedence to everything else. The rest isn't rocket science no matter what you are selling. I've worked with leaders across all industries and there's always a feeling that their niche is special and you need to have years of war wounds in that industry to be any good and not just anybody can do it - and it's just not the case. Don't get me wrong, once you get to the higher ranks of management and leadership, extensive industry knowledge is critical but for ICs, it's not required most of the time IMHO (SaaS included). I've seen more sales leaders than I can count hire for industry experience and they have a team full of industry professional B and C-players. Looking at your list of good/not-so-good, I'd guess their SaaS experience is a major culprit to the not-so-good. They only know what they know. They were good at their last job but can't adapt to a sell off-center from that lane. Strip Saas out and only look through the lens of cast-iron competencies and I feel most of these go away.
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