David Ramsden-Wood on the Energy Thinks Podcast
David Ramsden-Wood, aka DRW, does not love everything I have to say. In fact, he regularly responds to my?Both True?editions with some version of “You’re completely wrong. Let’s talk.” DRW is no shrinking violet with his?Substack?and?Hot Take of the Day?— and I don’t agree with much he has to say, either. So, after I sent out?“The World’s Cleanest O&G on Stage,” he invited me to return to his podcast to talk about it with this line:?“I disagree and I think it could be a wonderful discussion.” Who could say no to that?
I respect DRW. Particularly, his willingness to listen — really listen — and absorb rather than rev up his next argument. Not that there aren’t plenty of disagreements. Check out our conversation — DRW has graciously allowed me to repost it as the latest episode of?Energy Thinks.
Remember when I explored “good conflict” in previous?Both Trues?(here’s?Part 1?and?Part 2)? As DRW and I talked, I realized that I was participating in good conflict in real time. Good conflict is necessary to understand and engage others, especially when we passionately disagree with them.
I’ll be curious how my conversation with DRW plays out for you. It might change your mind on a few things.
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Here’s to a good, fun fight,
Tisha
Director, Strategic Development at Tegre Corporation
2 年Great conversation and good points on both sides. I tend to have a more Tisha-like view on these issues but I appreciate the tone of the conversation from DRW. He is also right to bring up Douglas Murray's point that you can debate finer points with people but it is hard to fundamentally change a person's worldview through debate. This is why we need to structure our ideas in a way that appeal to our opponents' values without watering down the message or content. I did miss the screaming, shouting, cancelling, and setting trash cans on fire. If you two could please do this next time that would be great.
Partner, Director of Client Strategy & Sustainability at Adamantine Energy
2 年I could listen to you two all day! It's so refreshing to hear a constructive discussion between two people who love energy but don't have to agree about everything.
Retired at Colorado Geological Survey
2 年Tisha, Wonderful discussion and points! I'm glad that you are engaging in this important activity--and in the WAY that you are engaging. I strongly believe that oil and gas discussions will lead the way, but it isn't just about fossil fuels. The conversation/concerns really needs to include ALL natural resources--particularly with regards to renewables. For instance, where is the 10 tons of copper for every wind turbine going to come from? ETC.
Motivational Speaker, Bestselling Author, Book Writing Coach, Ghostwriter
2 年I applaud BOTH of you for the healthy and vigorous discussion. Keep it going. Be a model for not just what you're saying but HOW you're doing it in respectful disagreement.