Curiosity Over Animosity: How to Have Hard Conversations At Work With Former UNICEF CEO

Curiosity Over Animosity: How to Have Hard Conversations At Work With Former UNICEF CEO

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In this episode, I speak with Caryl Stern, a remarkable leader and philanthropist. Caryl's background includes serving as the Executive Director of the Walton Family Foundation, being on the Board of Directors at The Container Store, and leading UNICEF USA. She shares the importance of doing good, influenced by her immigrant mentality and the serendipity of life. Caryl emphasizes being open to new opportunities and embracing roles that scare us. We discuss her pivotal moment in choosing philanthropy and the profound experiences she's encountered. Caryl highlights how helping others releases feel-good chemicals and the significance of humility.?

Throughout the episode, Caryl emphasizes the significance of humility in leadership and philanthropy. She eloquently explains how true greatness lies in recognizing that we don't have all the answers and that we must listen and learn from others to make a genuine impact. Her inspiring words remind us that by approaching our endeavors with humility and a genuine desire to serve, we can create lasting change and build stronger, more compassionate communities.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  1. The power of embracing unexpected opportunities and facing challenges head-on to achieve personal and professional growth.
  2. The profound impact of philanthropy and how acts of kindness can lead to a greater sense of purpose and fulfillment.
  3. The significance of humility in leadership and how it fosters meaningful connections and positive change.
  4. How life experiences and serendipitous moments can shape our passions and purpose.
  5. How you can make a difference in your own sphere of influence.


Leaders are asked to be confident, competent, strong, and visionary. Yet on the other hand, employees also want their leaders to share their challenges, struggles, and mistakes. How can leaders reconcile both of these truths?

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Joshua Lewis

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1 年

Leaders inspire leaders, thank you

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Clare Adams, LLB, MBA

Manager, Channel Management for TELUS Health MyPet. Passionate leader, pet parent, lifelong learner who believes in diversity, inclusion and giving back to our communities.

1 年

Fantastic interview - thank you both! Was a highlight of my weekend to watch this conversation and learn. Very inspiring. ?? ??

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Lona Alia

Top Performing Revenue Leader | Y Combinator W14 Founder | Scaling Revenue from $5M to $40M | Marketing, Sales & Demand Generation Expert

1 年

Jacob Morgan Absolutely, fostering open dialogue around challenging topics is crucial for growth and progress. Embracing diverse perspectives can lead to innovative solutions.

Claudia Heimer

Coaching talents, boards and companies to their next level

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Magezi Alone M.

Human Resources Manager at Hedgeway Group

1 年

Great post, thanks for sharing.

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