CS = CX + CO
Tanya Strauss
Customer Success Leader | Customer Experience & Retention | Team Leadership | Business Development | Customer Relationship Management | Driving Exceptional Client Experiences and Growth Strategies
I had a conversation the other day with a CS Leader about naming her customer-facing team. She was considering "Customer Experience" vs. "Customer Success." I advocated sticking with Customer Success or something else, but I didn't love the sound of "The Customer Experience Team" but I didn’t think I articulated very well why, so I wrote out my thoughts. Before I knew, my email started to look like an article and I realized that I'd love to have the input of my network on the discussion. So here we are!
Gainsight once had some great slides on this topic with the equation, "CS=CX+CO." The resulting 2x2 framework looks like the following. (Thank you to Nick Mehta , Ashvin Vaidyanathan and Nadav Shem-Tov for this brilliant framework!)
I believe that the goal of the Customer Success team is to ensure customers are realizing?the promise of what they were sold, e.g. the Outcomes. Outcomes are on a long timeline, they hold the value and they keep check-writers re-writing checks.?The Experience, on the other hand, is also part of a long term journey, but it happens in moments.?I love this quote from Scott Hudgins , Chief Commercial Officer at Walt Disney World, "No one owns the customer, but someone always owns the moment.” In our world, that’s sometimes the Customer Success Manager. Often it isn’t, though, because a lot of the factors within the customer’s Experiences are outside the CSM's sphere of control.
A series of small moments make up the full Experience/Customer Journey that I'll express in questions our customers are asking themselves:
2. Onboarding?Moments:?
3. Adoption Phase?Moments:
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4. Renewal Journey, etc etc...you get the idea
Another question Adoption Champions and Sponsors are asking themselves is, “How can I leverage this project to get promoted?” I might argue that that question falls more into the “Outcomes” bucket than the Experience one. What do you think?
Assuming the Moments are positive, the Experience side stuff should be?leading to?the desired Outcomes.
Without?both CO + CX, the customer can end up either Accessible (to competition), High Risk or Trapped. As Jonah Hill said in Moneyball, “Are those my only?options?” Yikes.
Another way I think about Experience vs Outcomes is in the retail world. I shop at Target. My whole Target engagement is really about the Experience. Do I find parking? Is the store open? Do they have the items I need? Do they suggest items I do NOT need (Expansion!)? Can I navigate/find my items easily? Can I check out easily? Target can control the Experience, but not so much the Outcome.
If the cold medicine I buy doesn’t relieve my symptoms, I might ask for my money back…but realistically I probably won’t and that Outcome wouldn't impact whether or not I shop at Target in the future. If I do return the cold medicine, that would come back to the Experience - in returning the item.
In fact, that’s the thing - Target sells?items. Other than to ask me to write an online review, Target has never checked in with me to see whether I got the Outcomes I wanted from what I purchased. The item isn’t even their product…Target doesn’t actually?make?cold medicine - they only make the Experience.?The “renewal” event at Target is just about me coming back to the store, which I’m going to do anyway because sometimes what I need is only available at Target (Trapped?). Long story short, their business is sustained by the Customer Experience.
I believe?B2B SaaS companies’ businesses are sustained by the Customer Outcome. The Customer Experience is a very important leading indicator.
Thanks for reading and what do you think?
Fantastic insight, Tanya. I've been hearing Customer Experience more and more, and I think it's the new and shiny. And I agree that, while important, it's missing the necessary outcomes.
Proven Sales & Customer Success Leader | Purpose-Driven Dot Connector | Perpetual Work-in-Progress
1 年I like to differentiate the two by explaining that the Customer Experience is the cumulative sum of every interaction a customer has with your company whether that's browsing your website, attending an event, working with a team member, or using your product, etc. Customer Success plays the most crucial role in that experience by working to help the customer achieve their desired outcomes. It doesn't matter how slick your product is or how much the customer may personally like you, if you fail to help them achieve the desired results, sooner or later the business will be at risk.
Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo
1 年I remember this slide! ??
Developing world-class Customer Success orgs and leaders; ex-Bain and Gainsight
1 年Nicely written Tanya Strauss. I use this framework and talk about it every day, it's probably have gotten even more relevant with time.
Customer Success & Customer Experience Leader
1 年The challenge that teams have is that they group CSM, Support and Onboaording/services (and other groups) into one function. If you call it Customer Success it may be too synymous with CSM so they call it CX. I’m not taking anything away from what you wrote as I agree with your argument. At times though it’s more of a optical reason than a meaningful reason. One company I recently spoke to called their function the Customer department which I liked. You don’t have Sales Success or Marketing Success. Well written post Tanya.