Corporate Germany needs change: an outsider's testimonial
Anne Frisch
Professor & Academic Director @ HEC Paris | Sustainable Finance and Performance, ESG Strategy | Business Games & Simulations | Board advisor
A French national with a long experience as CFO of internationally listed companies, I was quite disturbed when I moved to Germany and discovered a situation for women in Corporate Germany that I consider worse than it was in France when I started my professional life more than 25 years ago.
Friends had warned in advance that the business environment was not as women-friendly as in France. They also explained the mindset behind the Rabenmutter stereotype, one that does not exist anywhere else in the world aside from Germany, Austria and German-speaking Switzerland. So I was prepared to face some issues, but frankly I did not expect that it would be such a challenge.
I came to Germany as Finanzvorstand responsible for Finance and HR of a company employing 500 people across Germany. I made the move with my three children and my partner who at the time had most of his business in France.
The first thing that struck me was the young women at the office who looked at me with wide eyes, continually asking how I could manage both a senior executive role and family, all this in a new country. I felt like an alien, an exception, this had never been the case in France where I was always surrounded by successful business women who were also raising a family.
Also astounding was when some of my colleagues came to me and asked me to ensure that the young mothers who were currently in maternity leave would not return to work after their “Mutterschutz” time. I found this unethical and my answer was always “they have a job with us and I will make sure they can come back to this job”. Most shocking in a country that prides itself on respecting rules was when I learned that these tactics to remove mothers from their jobs are common practice.
I started to feel the pressure building because I was always the only women in large management meetings, I was the only Mom at school who could not accept appointments with teachers in the middle of the day, and when I met headhunters they kept asking me private questions on how I was managing my family life, instead of being interested in my professional achievements.
This is why I decided to take action and join PWN Global (www.pwnglobal.net) an international women’s network to start a new chapter in Munich. Back in France I had never really felt the need for this, but here in Germany I could see the necessity for raising awareness and building support groups to drive change. This is why I became a feminist in Germany.
I have spent a great deal of time considering the differences between France and Germany, why is Germany so backwards compared to France. Of course there are the obvious reasons like the childcare and the school system, as well as family policies. It is interesting to see that East Germany had a very different approach, with a real gender balance in higher education and at work. I find it sad that after the reunification, West Germany did not adopt this best practice from East Germany.
I have observed how efficient and well organized Germans are, so if there are still not enough places for young children in kindergarten, I believe it is not a lack of planning; it is a mindset which slows down the change. I am still wondering where this mindset comes from. One reason could be that after the war and with the Wirtschaftswunder life was just so good in Germany that families did not need a double income, so the success stereotype for men was “my job, my house, my car and my beautiful wife”. Fortunately times are changing; there are now young German fathers who want to take their paternity leave, thereby courageously standing up for the family in spite of stereotypes.
Change is necessary and it has to accelerate in Germany. Germany cannot remain the laggard of the developed countries ranking in gender diversity at the bottom of the list with Japan. Christine Lagarde, IMF chief and former French minister of Economy linked recently the economic stagnation of Japan in the last 10 years with their lack of diversity. According to IMF the GDP per capita of Japan could grow by 4% if their female labour participation rate were to reach the G7 average. This is serious food for thought for Germany.
To conclude I would like to stress that the best change agents will be the German men, who are proud of the success of their partners/wives, because they understand it will make the professional world a better place, not only for women, but for themselves, their families and society at large.
Anne Frisch - November 2014
NED Member Board Of Directors chez HEC Alumni | Independent Board Member, Audit & Risk and Nominations Cttee Member | Multicultural, client-orientated Business Transformation | Financial Services | Governance | Risk
7 年Interesting testimonial Anne Frisch! So "Kinder, Küche, Kirche" I learnt in my teenage years in Germany would still be around? Would be interesting if you had some more recent / global data to share, via PWN or else.
Non-Executive Director / Supervisory Board Member / Committee Chair
7 年that‘s the way it is... unfortunately!
Sustainability Pacemaker | Director, Sustainability Advisory at Salesforce | Transformative Tech to Serve People & Planet
7 年As much as the "Rabenmutter" stigma which stands against proper equality at work, there is a misperception of the male role in this too. Taking paternal leave, shifting down to part-time, traveling less, staying home with a sick kid - all often considered career-limiting moves. It takes quite some determination going this way nonetheless, along with supportive superiors and colleagues. Needless to say: in the end it will be rewarding for all parties. A better work/ life integration for both, moms and dads, kids benefitting from having both parents around regularly, and an increased talent retention for the enterprises. The latter should regard this as a compelling event to (support) change: otherwise modern, young parents will leave your company. For one that enables them achieving professional *and* life goals.
Coordination, Information + Organisation Expert | High Level PMO | ECMm. PRINCE2 Practitioner | Scrum Master | ITIL
7 年Well noticed, dear Anne. To "discovered a situation for women in Corporate Germany that I consider worse than it was in France when I started my professional life more than 25 years ago" I need to add that the situation WAS better or let's say more promising exactly these 25 years ago. I am myself amazed how this evolution could so strongly be interrupted and turned backwards. Co-factors for sure are the so-called 'Agenda 2012' installed by the German 'social-democratic' government at that time aiming at Germany becoming a low-cost labor market, while at the same time the tax system is facilitating house-wifing as a 'profession' - instead of reducing tax load via some kind of family-splitting (as France does). The consequence is a 'new generation' of young professionals whose man-woman-roles are deeply imprinted by exactly such idea of 'women = housewives' - and such hindering factors are strongly creating negative synergies. Additionally, if you want to do business you need at least equality in the justice system - and there is none, especially the 'power-handling facilities' in Germany are deeply convinced and carried by the 'old' patterns, proof are the very weird study cases students of laws are learning until today, such accelerating negative views about women on top of that mainly young people make it through the educational system where the mother stays at home. Women in such areas - in order to make it - adapt well but in the end help those structures to be maintained. Therefore, also a female chancellor means ... nothing. Add the risen disability of people to correctly capture the reality thanks to living in their filter bubbles. Add the unhindered media impact for quite a while which fostered photo-shopped youth and narcissism (the girls/young women today are investing far more efforts and time in the perfect outer appearance than inner or professional development while boys - no matter of which age - rather expect the same) and the phase in which every young woman wanted to 'become a model' and every young man a 'manager' thanks to the disastrous role-model by society. Altogether such is no foundation for further development and it all went backwards. Add the pressure of the labor market on young men or men in general to still identify with being the bread-winner instead of pursuing the idea of equality in partnership and working on it. Thus, the development is not at all linear. As long as women don't help together and as long as they keep on viewing each other is innate competition nothing will change. To ensure such, there is a lot of influx of women with exactly such mindsets. A bad game, altogether, and people are so under pressure they don't or maybe can't see what is being played with them - while they are happily participating while most of them not noticing it at all.
Supporting sustainability, climate & tech champions (Strategic Comms, Public & Regulatory Affairs, Sustainability & ESG) | 20 years experience in climate, tech & innovation | Co-founded sustainable bank & impact advisory
7 年Thank you Anne. This is why I left. But I think the change agents are fathers who are practicing fathership. Not only preaching it. But many German women don't insist on that at home.