Completing your own assignments: A conversation with a student

Completing your own assignments: A conversation with a student

Here's an interesting conversation I just had this morning.

A student reached out to me via my public Facebook account to request some help with an assignment they have in astrophysics and pointed out that they are a student in space science. I assumed that they were talking about a school assignment and were seeking some tutoring or homework problem support, but this kind of request is one I often have to turn down due to my own availability. And so I responded:

Student: Can u help me in my assignment Astro physics I'm a student of space and science. My response: Hi Syed! I'm certainly happy to point you to the resources that may help you and to offer my advice, but I unfortunately cannot offer my tutoring/teaching services online at this time.

However, the student then made a request that was honestly a little bewildering to me. The student outright asked me to take their assignment, complete it, and then send it back to them. While it was clear to me that English was not the student's primary language and there may be something lost in the communication, I honestly felt like the student was requesting a rather unethical situation:

Student: Umm is that possible u take my assignment and when u done over it Then send it to me Is this possible My assignment is based on HR-Diagrams I hope u can make an suitable situation , I'm glad for that.  My response: No, I cannot do that. That would be ethically wrong. The assignment is for you to learn and to complete on your own. Otherwise, you have no reason to do it at all. If you cheat and have someone else do it, the you would have learned nothing. My advice would be to research what HR diagrams are and to complete the assignment. If you are interested in astronomy, then you should know that what you learn from the HR diagram is crucial to your understanding of more complex topics in astronomy later on.

Now, I know some people would immediately dismiss this message thread and choose not to associate with the student, but I was hopeful that they may take my message as advice that they should strive to complete the assignment for the sake of their own learning.

Sadly, that hadn't seemed to be the case.

The student responded that they also have other work to cover, as though that might somehow justify them seeking to have someone else complete their work for them. I responded as I have much of late to students who have asked me how to overcome issues with not having time for their studies. If students wish to learn, they need to dedicate the time to learning and they must strive toward their own achievement. One of the key things I've noticed is that it's become ever harder for students to learn about time management skills and a large reason for that is that our societies around the globe are not dedicating enough focus on health and wellbeing. To learn, you must be well-rested and you must attend to your mental and physical health. And that's how I responded to the student in this case:

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I was hopeful that this response would resonate with the student.

I've noticed of late that there is a huge drive for students in many countries to "earn" as many certificates and degrees and titles as possible without any care or focus from parents, educators, or even the society at large for the actual process of learning or acquiring knowledge. This has led to many instances of cheating and buying said certificates and titles without actually putting in the time and effort. We're setting ourselves up for a dangerous future if we pressure students to feel accomplished without actually accomplishing anything.

Unfortunately, the student once again made their request of me:

Student: Write But can u do this for first and last time.  My response: I'm saddened that you don't seem to understand what I am telling you. I hope for your future that you discover the value of honor and the reasonable pride that comes with the completion of your own assignments and tasks.

Admittedly, I do not think the student was aware of the ethical implications of what they were requesting of me (and, again, there may have been some issues with the language barrier), but it was saddening to see their persistence in the request over acknowledging what I had said.

However, in the next response, the student did acknowledge what I had written, even if not immediately speaking to what I had shared:

Student: I understand what u have told me And i'm glad for  thaf That*.  My response: Well, I certainly appreciate that, then. If you are struggling with completing your assignment, you might wish to have an honest conversation with your instructor as to why you are struggling and see if they can help you make a plan for how to improve your studies and your time management. Graham Lau Many of us who have been teachers and professors truly do value our students more than many understand. We often want to see our students succeed, but we also know that it absolutely has to be at the discretion and hard work of the student to make that happen.

The next part of the message was a little different in tone, but also perhaps even more saddening. The student then went on to say that in their home nation (Pakistan), they felt like teachers didn't have an investment in their students. However, I personally know a couple of teachers in Pakistan and I know that this isn't entirely true (even if it is the lived perception of the student). I'm now continuing the conversation with the student in hopes of giving them some advice on ways to learn more and to focus on their learning. I don't know where the conversation will go or if the student will simply seek out someone else to do their homework for them, but I find value in at least trying to respond when my time allows.

But this whole thing had me wondering about the value of our education and the old saying from Mark Twain to "never let a formal education get in the way of your own learning." How can we best impress upon future generations the importance of learning for themselves and of striving for achievement through the process as opposed to wishing to stand above their peers based on credentials alone?

I thought I would share it here and ask for your opinions.

How do you think we can ensure that hard work to learn and achieve new skills is valued in our societies more than just having titles and certificates and degrees?

How can we ensure a future of trust in authority if we give authority to those who have not actually dedicated themselves to what they claim to understand?

How would you answer a student who makes a similar request of you?

Makayla Galler

Founder-Pilot Prodigies | NASA Intern | Naval ROTC Scholarship ASU | Aviation, Drone & STEM Ambassador, Board Member, Public Speaker, Private Pilot Glider, Certified Drone Pilot, Drone Soccer, General Aviation Advocate

2 年

If I have some else take the fly lessons for me to get the license and then I get into the plane to fly as the pilot it’s going to crash.

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Robina Shaheen, Ph.D.

Atmospheric physics and chemistry, GIS analyst and climate modeling, Remote sensing and GHG emissions estimation, short-lived climate pollutant and mitigation strategies, Equity Diversity champion.

3 年

Excellent post. I think you made a real difference at least teaching him about ethics. I totally agree with you that some student donot put in the time needed to learn and blame their teacher. I got a similar request from some one to send them research article on some specific topic. I asked the student to search the data base and tell me the name of authors and journal name if you need a journal artcle. The student was adamant and insisted as it is my assignment to do research for him. I am so glad you brought this issue to a day light.

B. Hadley Reed

RETIRED - Consultant in Aerospace Medicine

3 年

I would suggest pointing out to the student that padded resumes and pretty looking documents that certify nothing only artificially enhance one's past, they do nothing to enable the student to succeed in any future efforts. A grade is only a meaningless number if it does not signify the acquisition of useful skills for future success, and it is their future about which they should be most concerned and focused.

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Ilankuzhali Elavarasan

ISRO - Human Space Flight Research | Institute of Aerospace Medicine | Indian Air Force | BMSIS Visiting Scholar | Analog Astronaut - Habitat Marte | Space Educator |

3 年

Dr Lau, The situation what you have faced here, and the mentality of the student is definitely saddening at many levels. But as a person from an environment filled with people like one who have texted you, I confidently say that, these scenarios are viewed as very normal for a student to behave in such a manner (it gets worse as it goes). It's a height of disappointment and frustration to come across these scenarios, constantly, wherever we go here... Actually, to think out-of-the-box is forbidden or overlooked easily, also labelled 'abnormal' sometimes and the vigor to do so is died down early in any students' life. The pressure and the rat race is an ever-present elephant in the room and everyone here acknowledge (sometimes revere) it subconsciously. The deadlines have to be met, either the work is plagiarised or totally borrowed. The certificates are THE most important trophies than knowledge. Teaching and learning are most of the times,are in lack of level of inspiration( but there are obviously few professors/teachers who have dedicated their lives to inspire students--- but it is often over exaggerated than acknowledged).

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