Civilization 2.0 is coming... Fast enough?

Discussion with Peter Gluck, published on his blog. Blog https://egooutpeters.blogspot.fr/

LENRs.

A phenomenom with LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reaction):  Anomalous amounts of heat are created when certain metals (e.g. nickel, palladium) absorb hydrogen or deuterium and an external stimulus such as heat or an electric current is applied. The reaction takes place at relatively low temperature and sometimes results in transmutation of elements as well as the production of heat. Either no strong radiation is produced or it is absorbed locally....

LENR technology is going to be avaibable. Not too late....  

IH/Leonardo ( "Rossi project'):  Receent post from M. Rossi: "We are very close to be ready to make 1 million pcs/year, technologically speaking."

Peter Gluck and Michel Vandenberghe.  Discussion about the impact of LENR and the role fo Europe...

Peter Gluck : I still believe in the European civilization, culture..and future, so it is my desire to witness an important role of the Old Continent in the very young Energy Revolution too. In this direction, the existence, activity and fast development and progress of LENR Cities, lead by Michel Vandenberghe is a great asset. They will play a decisive role in EURO-LENR.
I have asked Michel- what we what we might do about LENR in Europe. How to compete with Rossi?

Michel: That's just my two cents. Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Then let's imagine such scenario…       Investors have put 62M$ on the Rossi Project. This makes sense only for an industrial project. So, there's an industrial project and so, technology works…

Today, the issue is not to get a scientific proof but to get a market proof, and “somebody is manufacturing a product” will be a perfect market proof. At this time, the debate will be over and we know that flooding the addressable market may be the strategy of the first entrant...

Peter: and how will this evolve naturally in today's industrial environment?:

Michel: This proof should unleash large investments in research and it is just obvious that the technology (technologies) would evolve quickly.  As one has the “Moore law” in electronics, I bet that one should have a LENR law such as "effective power density will double every X months".  Engineers will do their job and we should be able to package this energy source to make energetically autonomous, let’s say everything in less than 15 years, if everything goes well,LENR will trigger innovation in all sectors… Energy is everywhere… Today, Enterprises in the Energy sector are large enterprises.  In some years, LENR Industry for the energy sector will manufacture LENR batteries, and your supermarket will be your Energy provider… In the meantime, it makes sense think that LENR technology should have to be tailored to many applications in many different sectors.

Peter: dear Michel, if I remember well, in the jargon of your organization (as well as in reality, perhaps) "N" from LENR means Nanoscale too, so it will be a direct connection of LENR with the nano-industries, in full development?

Michel: I am not even sure that the manufacturing of nanostructured materials will be an industry as the semiconductor industry but done using 3D printers... as more and more nano-materials have applications in many sectors… and LENR is not only about Energy…

More specifics: Investments in the energy sector only amount to tens of billions.  Main Issue is not about the technology but about the market… The question is about these investments. A significant share of the economy depend on these investments…  The good news is that, only some tens of millions are required for LENR for now…  

When someone is asking how I will make money at LENR-Cities…with large investments in R&D, in less than 18 months of research, I think, enough will be known to trigger some first massive industrial investment. Obviously, some industrialists will invest early.  Others will say that the market will be efficient but they forget the main factor: This will not be the same market… By adding that the second major wave of disruptive Digital technologies is coming to reinforce the transition toward decentralized organizations, they should have guessed that things will not happen as usual… 

Peter: Let's put our European state of affairs re LENR in a worldwide context, please:

Michel: In Asia, we can count on Japan, China and India to lead the game. Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand will join the game… In Americas, it is just obvious because they are able to rush on any mine of gold twice faster than other countries... We have talked with people in Brazil, Chili three years ago already… In the Middle East, Israel and Saudi Arabia will lead… What will happen in Russia?  No idea but their Physicists are brilliant…

I know that there are several teams in Europe able to design reactors.  What they are doing today is limited by the resources they have and not by what they can do…   and I have no doubt that industrialists and startups in Europe will develop technologies.  Then, I’m not worried; Europe will play its role. Some large players will need time to able to cope with this transition. But if they try to reduce the pace of this transition, they will impact all the other sectors. This is a collective game…

For me, there’s a simple way to characterize what the problem is and consequently to begin to understand what might be the solution? The pace for the transition for all sectors will be essential. Faster this transition will be done, more will be reduced the cost of its side effects, including risks....more the development of the technology and its applications will be fast thanks to more investments.

Second characteristic is the ratio Raw Materials/W of the LENR and the recycling ratio of these raw materials. Lower it is it the best it is. Thanks to green manufacturing, we can expect 100%

It is important to remind that energy is not the only application of LENR. BTW, LENR for me is Low Energy Nanoscale Reaction, a way to neutralize an unproductive debate...

Peter: Why LENR Cities and what is its strategy?

Michel: Why LENR-Cities ? We need a way to make the adoption of LENR more attractive/less painful than any other option. LENR must not be a reason to compete between challengers and incubents but a reason to cooperate: It is not a naive affirmation but a requirement in order to avoid a bloody transition. We are promoting and developing a fully decentralized organization (LENRG) which aims to enable each player willing to solve an issue by using LENR, to develop its own business. LENRG is doing LENR projects, because our objective is also to solve issues by using LENR and, LENR-Cities, a member of this organization, is developing, testing and adapting this organization. 

What: Our objective is : Platform to enable and achieve the funding, the development and (pre) industrialization of LENR

How : Through a cooperative ecosystem : Companies willing to be part of the platform

Two metrics to characterize the efficiency of this platform as discussed above.  For now, the first one only.

A first Project is to develop in the coming months a first disruptive technology, a Nuclear Waste Remediation technology, that is to say a transmutation technology and the stake is to develop a scalable solution.  We are also looking for funding to implement our PhD program project at full scale as part of this project.

Peter: what do you think about the Event of today, MFMP's achievement:

Michel: Excess heat is one phenomenon of LENRs.  Proof of excess heat is now replicable.   MFMP has published initial information about how to replicate and details are coming with their cookbook.  

Now, scientists and engineers are going  to explore how to master the COP and energy density  with LENR+   

Thank you, Michel. I hope our discussions will continue...