Can Managers and Employees Be Friends Outside Of Work?
Kathy Caprino
Global Career & Leadership Coach | Speaker/Trainer | Author | Former VP | Trained Therapist | Senior Forbes Contrib | Finding Brave? host - supporting the advancement and success of women in life and business
Part of Kathy Caprino's series "Building Your Happiest and Best Career"
As a career and leadership coach, I regularly hear from writers and journalists in the media who have probing questions involving how to build a successful career and be a strong, effective manager. They typically ask questions around how to avoid making big mistakes in navigating through specific tough challenges.?Most often, these are complex issues that don't have an easy, black and white answer because they touch on the deeper aspects of the human experience, such as power dynamics, dealing with (unconscious or conscious) bias, handling a difficult team member, staying emotionally healthy during crisis and challenge, strong boundary development, demonstrating integrity, and more.
Several years ago, I heard from a writer – Aly Semigran – who was developing a piece on whether employees and bosses can be friends. Her questions were truly insightful and probing, and many of her queries were similar to what I've heard from my own coaching clients and course members over the years. Aly offered a short excerpt of a few of my answers, along with quotes from other career experts, in her article on Well+Good about??Can You Be Friends With Your Boss (and Should You) ?
Below are my full responses to her questions on how it can work effectively (and why it frequently doesn't) when bosses and employees are friends outside of work.
First,?should?bosses and employees be friends??
I think the answer to this depends on how we define “being friends.” It’s wonderful to be friendly with your boss and subordinates – to have an easy-going, open and friendly rapport based on mutual respect, care and concern.
But if we’re taking about taking it further – socializing outside of work, having your boss meet your family, sharing long periods of time together and intimate details of your life, etc. – it’s very tricky waters and you have to know how to (and be capable of) handling this effectively. Doing this well involves building strong boundaries so that the “friendship” doesn’t impact how you perform your work together, and how you relate as professionals in a situation where the power between you is not equal.
As a former corporate director and VP, and one who has worked with many bosses and employees and on occasion been good friends, I’d say that it can work out well, and be productive and positive in the lives and careers of both parties.
That said, it can also backfire terribly, (as it also has in my own life) and there are some real pitfalls to watch out for in developing a friendship with your boss or employee.?A romantic relationship is far trickier, and not advisable if it's avoidable. Why? Because, when there’s a significant power differential in a relationship, and when one party can directly influence the other’s ability to succeed, advance or thrive in their role, then equality (and even true consensuality) in the relationship?is not possible . And if and when the relationship falters, there can be a huge price to pay.
Let's say an employee gets along with their boss and is thinking about trying to spark up a friendship, what's the best way to go about this??
Most if not all friendships don’t start with someone saying, “Will you be my friend?” They emerge organically, with the two individuals having an interest in getting to know each other better. Perhaps they have a meeting at work and afterwards, one says to the other, "Want to go have lunch?” During lunch, the conversation then moves away from strict work topics to more personal issues. Then there’s a developing feeling of mutual connection, understanding and interest.
Or when people attend social events outside of work (such as drinks or a social activity or off-site) where people are encouraged to be more “themselves” than the workplace tends to encourage, friendships can begin to form as people begin to reveal a side of themselves that they may not share as openly during work. When that happens, and a personal connection is formed, it often naturally grows into something that expands beyond the confines of a “work” relationship.
Does the same go for the boss who gets along with their employee and wants to pursue a friendship outside of work??
When we’re talking about a boss – the one with the greater power in the organizational hierarchy – they have to be very careful and judicious.??When a boss initiates a friendship with an employee or subordinate, there’s always a power dynamic aspect to it.?Pretending there isn't is just denial. For instance, what if the employee doesn’t want to be friends but now feels pressure to act as if they do?
I believe that if you’re the one with the power (the boss), it’s best to have strong, well-formed boundaries around this, and not directly pursue a friendship with a subordinate unless it forms more organically.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of a boss and employee being friends??
Here are three key advantages:
- You know each other better and can build greater interest, compassion, and respect through your personal relationship.
- You may be more engaged and committed to supporting each other, because of the mutual respect and appreciation you have for each other.
- Work can become more “fun,” relaxed and enjoyable because you’re able to be more yourself and authentic with this individual than perhaps you normally would.
The key disadvantages are:
- If the relationship goes sour, it inevitably taints the work relationship and that can go very badly for both people involved. And it's extremely hard to work with/for someone who's hurt you or with whom you have serious conflicts.
- If the relationship has problems, sometimes there are personal things this individual knows about you that perhaps are no longer “safe” in their hands.
- Even if the relationship stays strong, sometimes personal affinity with someone colors your judgment about their performance. As a boss, that’s particularly challenging in that it could pave the way to preferential or favorable treatment of this individual over others, or whose work performance perhaps doesn’t merit it.
- Close friendship between a boss and a superordinate can also throw the balance off of the whole team. Members of a team or department who don’t experience this close friendship can feel jealous, left out and potentially feel they are being side-lined or not seen and appreciated.
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- Finally, there are times when emotionally-imbalanced individuals take the “break up” of the friendship very hard, and will decide to go to great lengths to punish the “offender” in his or her mind. This is particularly true when the one who is “left” in the relationship (vs. the “leaver”) has?narcissistic tendencies . In those cases, the one who’s left can go to great lengths to damage the reputation and the career of the leaver.
I'd add that a personal friendship outside of work can work successfully only when both parties are:
Should rules be set in place for a boss and employee who are friends? For instance, should they not talk about work things outside of the office, and vice versa? What about things like money and raises?
Here’s where strong, healthy boundaries are essential. It’s important for the boss and employee to make some ground rules about their relationship, including the understanding that the boss needs to remain fair and just in their leadership and management, and can’t show preferential treatment to this employee.?
Money, promotions, raises, bonuses – all compensation- and benefits-related matters that are handled in the purview of work – should not be discussed outside of work. And they need to be discussed at work only under the appropriate conditions and at the right times.
Plus, any discussions (and gossiping) about other employees or colleagues simply can’t be allowed. Why? Because that type of sharing compromises the manager’s ability to manage and lead, and it impacts the employee’s ability to effectively work with their colleagues.
It’s critical to remember again that if you are a friend of someone who is at a lower level in the organization, there’s power there that you may intentionally or unintentionally wield, and that power must never be abused or misused.
How should a boss and employee handle the concerns of other employees who may think the befriended employee gets preferential treatment??
The best way to handle this is first to ensure there IS no preferential treatment.?Be ever vigilant that you are not feeling, showing or sanctioning treatment that puts this friend above others in the workplace, because if you are, it’s unfair to others and you're not effectively doing the job you were hired to do.
And understand that everything is energy (as I learned during my time as a therapist), and the “energy” of your friendship will be apparent. There will probably be some jealousy and concern on the part of other department members when they see a close friendship forming between their boss and a particular individual. It will smack to some as unfair bias, and you’ll have to make sure that there IS no unfairness, or you’ll be inevitably challenged and questioned.
Should a friendship be brought up with HR??
In my view, a friendship with a boss or employee is not the arena of HR, unless there’s been a complaint from this friend or another individual about preferential or otherwise inappropriate treatment. Then, full disclosure on the nature of the friendship will be requested/required.
How should an employee make sure their friendship (including time outside of the office spent together, or even disagreements), doesn't bleed over into work??
Effective management of personal relationships with bosses and other colleagues takes a strong mindset as well as emotional management?and maturity. If you want this friendship to work, you have to be emotionally healthy and able to regulate your own thoughts and behaviors to make sure that anything challenging in the friendship will not bleed over into how you do your work, or how you perceive the other individual and their management capability.
In my former therapy work and now coaching/training thousands of professionals around the globe, I have seen that this is very challenging for most people. When they’re having problems with a friend, they often lose their ability to think neutrally and calmly about it. They feel hurt and often want to blame the friend and make this friend “wrong.” And people who are vindictive want to then cause more hurt to the other whom they feel has been unfair to them. You can see how quickly that type of thinking will be destructive if the person who’s “wrong” in your mind is your boss or your direct report.
To make sure it doesn’t bleed over, be very mindful and aware of your thoughts and feelings about this person, and if your anger, resentment or hurt feelings affect your functioning and thinking at work, get some outside (neutral) help from a friend, coach, mentor, accountability buddy, or in cases where it’s needed, obtain therapeutic help.
Why do bosses and employees make such good friends in many cases?
First, it’s important to realize that bosses and employees are just people. The rank or title they hold doesn’t necessarily make them different people from who they would be without that professional designation. So of course, we’re going to find great friends among the people we work with every single day. After all, most of us spend more time with our work colleagues than with anyone else in our lives, including our families. And often we’ve been drawn together at a workplace because of shared interests and values.
Secondly, there’s a context basis to friendship that often solidifies it. In other words, haven’t you ever noticed that you’ll make great friends with people in your immediate context (your work, volunteer efforts, church/temple, hobbies, etc.) that you perhaps would not be friends with at all if you didn’t see them regularly in this setting?
Being in the same context and environment can often foster a special bond because you’re experiencing things together that give your life and personal story greater meaning and purpose. And often, you want to share, explore (and sometimes vent) about it.
Doing so together creates a sense of shared experience, validation, connection and deeper understanding of yourself and the world around you. Building great relationships at work can enrich your professional experience and success, but it can also crush it.
In the end, be careful to manage all your relationships with the highest degree of maturity, well-defined boundaries, equanimity, well-intentions and self-awareness that you can muster.
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2 年The best thing I read today!! In my opinion as long as there's trust & respect for each other, there's maturity- personal friendship outside of work can prevail.
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2 年Kathy! You've nailed it ????
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2 年It would take both boss & employee to have exceptional professional integrity to be able to have a close friendship out of the workplace. Any work issues would be needed to be handled carefully..eg: if the employee (bosses friend) decides to put a complaint in about another employee for bullying, then it probably should be handled by an alternative superior. Or you have to ask..is the boss going to be able to act impartial? Or is it going to be a reaction of "protecting their buddy from the bully" like in the playground. There is also the issue of other employees being aware of the friendship and developing a fear of coming forward to the boss about their own concerns. They would definitely feel they couldn't put a complaint in about the bosses buddy (which I have seen myself) I think it would be very difficult to maintain integrity on both sides. Integrity is everything and once little holes start to appear we can only patch them up so many times before it completely falls apart. Think of it like the skin on your hands (as we do in nursing). If the skin is intact it is of good integrity and there is less chance of anything penetrating through to cause harm. But if its damaged or worn down, then integrity is impaired and at risk.