Is buying a Suzuki Jimny the biggest mistake you’ll make this year?
Wynand Roos
Group Executive - Technical Presales | Expert in Articulating Value & Closing Deals | Microsoft, SAP, SAS Alum | Co-Founder of CRM Team
The Suzuki Jimny has been around for 40 years with very little upgrades to its simplistic design. This is part of the Jimny’s winning strategy, don’t fix something that is not broken. According to the official marketing collateral, the Suzuki is built to: “Go Anywhere at Any Time”, “It will bend over front and backwards for you in any given situation” and, “Jimny’s simply don’t crack!” I know what you are thinking, this sounds flipping amazing so how could this be a mistake?
Well, it turns out that despite the beautiful customer-centric philosophy published on their website, Suzuki will go to great length not to honour their warranty agreement. You see, according to the head of marketing and product planning, “40% of Suzuki Jimny’s are bought by women in the city because they are cheap” and even though the Suzuki is marketed as a tuff, go anywhere 4x4, as soon as you drive through water deeper than the axles, your warranty won’t cover any defects. So clearly Suzuki discloses this information with great transparency, after all this is one of those 10 customer commitments? The answer is of course NOT! They tell you to go F-yourself with the below official response:
“Please note that the exact wading depth of any OEM vehicle will not be specified due to entry speed, entry angle which could influence the depth of the water, however on page 6-5 in your owners Manuel it stipulates:
The water is too deep if it covers your wheel hubs, axles, or exhaust tailpipe. Know the depth of the water before you attempt to drive through it.
We do consider the matter addressed where management has rendered their input”
Fact is: The manual does not stipulate but rather provide the above information as a driving tip!
So why did I buy a Suzuki Jimny?
In December I was channel hopping and my eye caught a 4x4 competition on the television program, Ignition. This was the Bridgestone 4x4 club challenge and on the episode, I watched, the Suzuki Jimny’s were kicking ass and taking names. I started doing research on the Jimny by looking at a ton of YouTube videos, analysing specification sheets and exploring feedback and perceptions on social media. Analysts were consistent across the board, the Suzuki is not a great fun car to drive every day and it does not even have an NCAP rating, but man it is one hell of a 4x4 off-road vehicle…
I received my brand new Jimny on Wednesday the 3rd of January and immediately started making arrangements to explore its 4x4 capability. Because I was new to the vehicle, I decided to drive an easy, controlled 4x4 track at hobbypark.co.za in Krugersdorp on Saturday the 6th of Jan. The second obstacle is a shallow (or what I thought was shallow) water obstacle, after walking the obstacle and measuring that the deepest point is not deeper than 500mm I navigated the obstacle. Unfortunately, my vehicle started taking on water at the bottom of the doors and the next day my clutch became difficult to depress.
On Tuesday the 9th of Jan I took the vehicle back to Suzuki only to be told that they must replace the clutch and that neither this nor the damp water smell in the brand-new cabin will be repaired under warranty because I drove through deep water. When I requested a definition of “deep water” because I could not find a wading depth anywhere, I was told that Suzuki does not publish the Jimny’s wading depth but there is a driving tip in your owner’s manual that mentions that water is too deep if it is higher than the axle or exhaust - This would have been awesome to know before I bought the vehicle or when I asked the salesperson what a snorkel for the Jimny would cost, boy what a na?ve question in retrospect…
Why the hell is there a snorkel for the Jimny if you can’t drive in water above the wheel axel?
Just to look pretty when driving on grass, apparently!
Here is a picture of my own Jimny directly after the obstacle, the water was clearly not that high nor that muddy taking into consideration that the wheels were only pumped 1.5 Bar.
Suzuki confirmed that they had to re-align the doors to get rid of the rattles and squeaks I initially complained about. In my opinion, the misaligned doors were responsible for the water leak.
According to my research, your clutch is supposed to be a sealed unit that should not have to be replaced on a vehicle with 300km on the clock even if you drive through a bit of water. I, therefore, find Suzuki’s response quite unreasonable especially considering that the Consumer Protection Act (2008) clearly states that Suzuki should highlight and disclose all relevant information pertaining to the Jimny on all aspects of the product, allowing the customer to make an informed decision when purchasing the vehicle.
The vehicle was not used for anything other than its intended purpose, so If Suzuki insists that this vehicle is not defective, then the Sales and Marketing teams disingenuously positioned the capability of the Suzuki Jimny through false advertising and deliberately withholding crucial information.
So, is buying a Suzuki Jimny the worst mistake you can make this year? I sincerely hope not, but would have to wait and see…
IT Support Technician at The JAC Group
5 年Your problem comes from basic technical negligence. Let me explain this in detail: You are right that clutch is sealed. Same apply for differentials and transfer case. But you are forgetting that there are shafts coming in and out of these sealed boxes. During any operation, these components get warmer and the air inside expands and leaks either through seals or through breather opening. If the component gets cold (for example when you enter deep water) the air shrinks causing low pressure inside and sucking air from outside. If you were on dry land, It would just suck in another air - all good. But if the component is underwater, what happens? That bloody thing sucks in water! That is why going through water deeper than axle (i.e. submerging differential cases and other components) is not covered by warranty. You need to install aftermarket breather kit (long pipe with little intake and filter, which will always stay above water) Due to lack of knowledge, you got water not just in your clutch but most likely in your differentials as well and probably also in transfer case. Expect these component to rust and fail pretty quickly. (or just visit service and ask them to fix it). My opinion: I agree that Suzuki should highlight this information to avoid confusion among general public and damage to cars marketed as off-road. However there is no false advertising or withholding critical information. This is basic knowledge, which you should have, before driving off road. Your complain puts you among group of people who are suing companies because their coffee was hot (and they burned their mouth) or because they didn't know they can't dry their cat in microwave. (because there was no warning). With (or without) your approval, I will use this article as an example of silly people damaging their cars. Thank you.
Hospital Furniture Division Manager at Hutz Group of Companies
7 年https://www.wheels24.co.za/NewModels/Road-Tests/review-suzuki-jimny-a-diamond-in-the-rough-20180208
Group Executive - Technical Presales | Expert in Articulating Value & Closing Deals | Microsoft, SAP, SAS Alum | Co-Founder of CRM Team
7 年I love how passionate people are about their #Jimny 's! I can honestly say that it is my desire to be as passionate about this vehicle, that was the reason I bought it! My reason for the discussion is that the workshop foreman at #Suzuki explained that the clutch problem was not as a result of water damage but Suzuki is using the fact that I drove through water as an excuse not to pay for the damage - This is the concern!
Hospital Furniture Division Manager at Hutz Group of Companies
7 年I have a Jimny for over 4 years. Only used for 4x4 excursions. With all due respect, I don't think you have done your homework properly. You mentioned that your research found that the clutch is a sealed unit. Please show me this in your research, because it is not a sealed unit. With this said, driving through prolonged water crossings or being stationary in water, your clutch thrust bearing will eventually start rattling and the action will become stiff and heavy like you experienced. I never experienced water leakage through my doors. My doors are sealed properly. As you mentioned above, they found your doors not aligned properly. So I don't see how Suzuki is misleading you as hundreds of other Jimny users that use their vehicle 'for intended use' don't have your experience. Also remember, vehicles are built with human behind the scenes.....Not every vehicle is built perfect. EURO NCAP was only introduced in 1997. I stand corrected, it has a JNCAP rating of 5 for driver and a 6 for passenger. On a side note, why do you drive a trail on tyre pressures that is nearly suited for tar? I hope you get your money back, maybe an Opel Adam could be the replacement? Cheers!