Are Brands Invited to the Group Chat?
Hello ???? Today’s ICYMI has all the social marketing news and trends you need but also an exploration of brand-led communities. I’ve been talking about this for a while and saw a recent LinkedIn post from marketer Cristina Lopez on the same subject. So I asked her to collab on a recap looking at which brands are embracing the shift from public to private spaces. If you like it, I usually do these deep dives as an exclusive for paid newsletter subscribers!
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I don’t know that I’ll incorporate this as a breakout every week but there were a few interesting updates for social marketers:
Are Brands Invited to the Group Chat?
In 2024, it’s all about private spaces over public feeds.?
Instagram head Adam Mosseri’s been pointing out this behavioral shift from posting to the Feed to sharing in Stories and DMs for months. And there’s no shortage of other experts pointing out the benefits of group chats and community forums to develop more supportive and authentic connections.?
By and large, these collaborative spaces are being created and curated by individuals — creators or influencers looking for a direct line to friends or followers who share a connection.
Of course, as the digital trend accelerates, brands have wanted to jump on board. But there are some extra considerations when you're launching a brand-led, private community.?
Some of the challenges brands face: Can a company host a successful private community; spark authentic two-way connections; and show up as more than just a corporate logo??
After all, we’re aiming for positive community engagement, not luring members into a sales pitch they can’t escape.?
Let’s dig into the brands that seem to have cracked the community code:
Community as a loyalty program:
Rachel Karten tackled the topic in a recent newsletter featuring Topicals Spottie Sphere on Try Your Best (TYB). At 9,500 members strong, the community ranges from self-described brand enthusiasts to official brand ambassadors and skincare industry pros. Described as “friends with benefits,” members participate in engagement challenges and are rewarded with early access to product launches, discounts, exclusive access to events, and more perks.?
Takeaway: Be clear about your expectations for the group. You really need to decide on the direction you want the community conversation to take. Will it focus entirely around your product or service (this is easier if you’re a cult or niche brand), or is it tied to shared goals and interests? Your choice of platform can also help reinforce the conversation you want to host. For example, TYB markets itself as a community platform for brands and fans, versus social networks like Discord, Reddit or WhatsApp which might encourage more freewheeling discussion.
Community for the B2B crowd:
Aspire, an influencer marketing platform, hosts a Slack channel called The Coffee Shop run by consultant and community enthusiast Ryan Gutierrez . The group offers connection and conversation for 2500+ professionals in the influencer marketing space. Gutierrez is something of an expert in communities, having just launched another Slack channel for tvScientific called TVRoom for performance marketers looking to talk about performance CTV trends with peers. (More tips from Ryan below!)
Takeaway: Make it easy for people to join. There’s something to be said for choosing a platform that you as the group admin and potential members are already familiar with. After all, it’s likely marketers looking to expand their network and grow their capabilities are already participating and engaging on Slack during business hours. “These Slack spaces serve as an educational channel that caters to individuals like me, who thrive on collaborative project work and value real-time, actionable insights,” says Gutierrez.?
Community linked by common interests:
The Official Peloton Mom Group on Facebook is an official brand group but this community has gone off the rails in the best possible way. While the brand keeps the group up to date on Peloton announcements and features, it takes a hands-off approach to the day-to-day conversation. Member posts range from vacation destinations and home renovations to family drama and life advice. “Off topic” posts are the main topic of conversation for members with a shared value system.?
Takeaway: Encourage genuine member connections — with guardrails. Sparking conversation between community members is the dream. A true community is not a passive audience, waiting for you to post. It’s a group of people who are connected together over a shared purpose or set of challenges. But even the most hands-off brands need to establish some guardrails. The Peloton Mom Group has guidelines — enforced by moderators — to foster a supportive, positive and safe experience for everyone, no matter what they’re posting about.? ?
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Community as an organic extension of brand fandom:? ??
Brands might not need to create something new if they can tap into already existing communities on platforms like Fortnite, Roblox or Reddit. We’re seeing L’Oreal stream their fashion shows on Roblox (no need for a passport). Starbucks employees and fans trade coffee talk in the unofficial SBUX Hub Discord server with a gated area for verified staffers. There’s even a Taco Bell Reddit community (not owned by the brand, just run by fans) called Living Mas boasting 41K fans sharing about their favorite fast food joint.?
Takeaway: Tap into pre-existing communities. You don't necessarily need to start from scratch. If a supportive community already exists, join in. The brand’s involvement can range from observational — this is an amazing chance to get into the mindset of your customers and potential customer —? to active member. If your involvement seems welcome, this is your chance to collaborate on projects with people invested in the success of this community.
Community that’s creator or founder-led:?
In the same vein, a founder-led community or hub makes sense if you’ve got a highly visible person at the helm that people naturally gravitate toward. Look at Selena Gomez with Rare Beauty; Emma Chamberlain with Chamberlain Coffee; Kirbie Johnson and Sara Tan, who have a Facebook group for their podcast Gloss Angeles; and actress Ally Maki who created Asian American Girl Club, an online space for Asian American women.?
Takeaway: A notable founder can significantly boost interest in a community. But the real work comes after people have opted into a private group. It's about building upon real connections between the audience and the brand; understanding members’ likes, needs, and dislikes; and making people feel seen and heard. Everyone wants to feel special. This two-way interaction not only adds value, but helps produce a responsive, engaged community.
?? More Brand Communities to Watch:
Do you lead a private brand community or know a company that’s crushing it? Leave their name in the comments below!
?? ?? Ryan Gutierrez’s B2B Community Pro Tips
Ryan Gutierrez, who calls himself Chief Sharing Officer, acts as a community steward, creating networking and growth opportunities for members in his groups. Here are some mindset tips Gutierrez suggests for fostering meaningful connections:
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- Lia Haberman and Cristina Lopez
?? RESPECT THE FLAT LAY
Let’s pause for a second to appreciate how the cover of Barbie: The World Tour book from Rizzoli is a stellar example of social-first design. I see a lot of people talking about video being social-first, but even short-form vertical video can get it wrong if it’s shot legacy media style.?
The format of this book cover (and its social post) is clearly an homage to flat lays — an image of arranged items shot from above. It’s a particularly popular way to share food and fashion photography on Instagram.?
The way Barbie and Rizzoli released the book cover as a three-way collab on Instagram (with the BarbieStyle account) that simultaneously honors the brand’s embrace of fashion with a method of expression that’s truly authentic to fashion creators and also manages to capture how a doll would naturally lie flat… The whole thing is perfection.?
??? QUOTE OF THE WEEK
"A crisis will percolate and explode in a TikTok world. I tell my clients, do not respond where the algorithm is. Go someplace else"
-Crisis communications expert Molly McPherson quoted in Axios on why TikTok was not the best place for Kyte Baby CEO Ying Liu to offer an apology after a major blunder
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Thanks for reading! And thank you to ICYMI community members Lindsay Calabrese ?? , Danielle Wiley , AJ Feuerman , Andrew Curry and Nick Cicero for your input this week!
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1 年Lia Haberman additionally, A community thrives at its best when it is populated with individuals embodying what Adam Grant refers to as 'Matchers'.. https://youtu.be/YyXRYgjQXX0 In the spirit of matching with your contribution, explore an actively curated list of vendor-led communities compiled by Erik Martin. - https://airtable.com/appYmPjGU3Jc4QbFf/shrvBVV6LhEKbHfSi/tbleLC0PP9sz8bYCm
CEO at Zulution
1 年Wow, great insights on how brands are adapting to private communities! ??
First-Gen Social Media + Influencer Marketer ?? I've built the largest brands on Social Media & now I'm teaching you how to ??????
1 年Private spaces are the way!
TikTok LIVE Creator of the Year (950k) ?? Co-Founder of @TeamTANDA App ??+23M views in the last 30 days ??
1 年Loved getting to hear more about communities! Definitely can second the idea about building off already existing fandoms. Our community naturally expressed their love for Nintendo over time so we created a group within our app for members to share codes and play against each other. So bloody cool to see for us that people were connecting even when we weren’t there to facilitate the activity!
VP & Principal Analyst, Social Media & Creator Economy. On-air TV expert, BBC & Bloomberg TV regular.
1 年Just because people don’t want advertisers to slide into their DMs doesn’t mean brands can’t be in on the group chat. Love these examples Lia!