AZT: Hacker Valley Dishes on Breaking Into Cybersecurity

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A new year, a new season, and plenty of new threats to impact the world of cybersecurity. This week we break from our typical conversations about modern cybersecurity strategies and concepts to focus on one of the most important aspects of our space: people.

People are the why behind what we do. We protect, support, and educate them about the dangers that lurk online. However, cybersecurity is also driven by people, and for new entries into our field, it can feel nearly impossible to break in. This week we turn to two experts who lived the lives of practitioners and shifted their energy toward telling amazing stories that drive our industry forward. This duo has built a masterclass on what it means to be in cybersecurity and has guided countless people through every nook and cranny.

And with that, Neal D. and I are excited to introduce Hacker Valley Media 's Ron Eddings and Chris Cochran , who discuss breaking down the barriers to cybersecurity and why practitioners need to invest in soft skills.

TL;DL

Don’t have time to listen to the full episode? Here are the key takeaways

• Breaking into cybersecurity requires curiosity, interest, and a willingness to learn
• Networking and building connections within the industry are crucial for career advancement
• Seek out mentors who can provide guidance and advice
• Tell your own story and showcase your skills through platforms like podcasts and social media
• Cold applications can be challenging, so connect with someone who can vouch for you
• Be open to continuous learning and staying updated on industry trends

Editor’s Note

AZT has made it to year 3, and our numbers are growing like crazy. But, we don’t really care about all that jazz. Neal and I started this series to help gut the marketing fluff behind Zero Trust and ensure the message wasn’t watered down. With our new season, we will, of course, continue with that focus, but our primary mission going forward is around elevating modern cybersecurity strategies and approaches and hearing the stories behind people making them happen.

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Breaking into Cybersecurity: Insights from Chris and Ron

Here are some key takeaways from our conversation:

1. Be Curious and Start Talking to People

According to Chris, one of the first things you must do is foster a genuine curiosity about cybersecurity. Start exploring different aspects of the field and engage in conversations with professionals. Chris emphasized the importance of understanding the different roles and skill sets within cybersecurity, which can be learned through networking, attending meetups, and being part of communities.

Ron added that networking plays a crucial role in breaking into the industry. He highlighted the power of connections and how reaching out to the right people can open doors for opportunities. Ron suggested leveraging platforms like LinkedIn to make yourself known and to connect with individuals who can showcase your skills and potential.

2. Leverage Your Existing Skills and Seek Mentorship

Both Chris and Ron emphasized the value of leveraging your existing skills when entering the cybersecurity field. Chris pointed out that you don't need all the skills necessary for a job from day one. Instead, focus on the skills you currently possess and find ways to apply them to cybersecurity. Whether through personal projects or learning opportunities, building on your existing skills can help you gain experience and confidence.

Mentorship is another crucial aspect of breaking into cybersecurity. Ron shared his experience with mentorship and emphasized its impact on his career. He encouraged individuals to seek mentors who can provide guidance, support, and advice. Chris highlighted the importance of doing your homework and being specific when reaching out to potential mentors. Demonstrating your passion and preparedness can increase your chances of finding a mentor who can help accelerate your growth in the field.

3. Embrace Continuous Learning and Perseverance

Chris and Ron both emphasized the need for continuous learning in the cybersecurity field. As the industry evolves rapidly, staying updated with the latest trends, technologies, and best practices is essential. They encouraged aspiring cybersecurity professionals to invest time in learning new skills, obtaining certifications, and participating in relevant training programs.

Perseverance was another key theme in our conversation. Ron shared his journey of moving across the country and seizing opportunities despite challenges. Both hosts emphasized the importance of resilience and a growth mindset. Breaking into cybersecurity may not be easy, but with dedication and perseverance, you can overcome obstacles and achieve your career goals.

The Power of Storytelling in Cybersecurity

Storytelling is a necessary soft skill that applies to any field, but even more so when you need to break down complex issues that pose a significant impact on people.

"I think the thing that gets people hosed up is like, 'Oh, I don't have all of the skills necessary to start the job.' But think about some of the skills that you do have right now that you can start leveraging in that position," said Cochran.

Chris emphasizes the importance of being curious and interested in the field, and using storytelling to showcase one's existing skills and experiences.

Ron adds to this by highlighting the power of connections and networking. He suggests that individuals should focus on building relationships and connecting with others who can help them tell their stories.

"If I'm trying to break in today, I'm looking at how can I be connected with someone that could show me in the most positive light? How can I go on a podcast like this or go on Hacker Valley Studio? All I need is just one chance to speak about what I want to do. And someone's gonna see that. And that's your opportunity," said Eddings.

Both Chris and Ron recognize the value of mentorship in storytelling. Chris shares his experience with mentors throughout his life and their impact on his journey. He advises aspiring professionals to seek out mentors who can provide guidance and support, helping them navigate the challenges and learn from their experiences.

Additionally, Ron introduces a unique perspective on mentorship, mentioning the concept of a Table of Mentors. This exercise involves envisioning a diverse group of mentors, including real and fictional characters, and seeking their insights and advice. It allows individuals to expand their thinking and gain different perspectives on storytelling in cybersecurity.