ASME PTC 19.3 Thermowell Calculation mistake everyone makes

ASME PTC 19.3 Thermowell Calculation mistake everyone makes

Originally published on www.asad-shaikh.com

While performing complex engineering calculation we lose sight of simple laws of physics.

For instance velocity of fluid in pipe is inversely proportional to the area of pipe.

Do you remember while watering plants, we partially block the hole of pipe to have high velocity of water being sprayed on plants.

It’s a simple phenomenon of physics that as soon as we restrict the area of flow the velocity increases.

We know that for wake frequency calculation one of the most important parameter is velocity of fluid.

Now let’s consider two practical scenarios where the thermowell is under-designed or over-designed due to incorrect velocity considerations

Case 1: Thermowell is over-designed 

This happens for especially shorter lines. As a rule of thumb it is recommended to swage up lines up to 4 inches for smaller line sizes like 1&1/2 inches or 2 inch line sizes.

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Thus when swage up the line to 4 inches or swage up line as per client preference we might lose sight of the fact that the velocity would also change.

It has a high probability that such small line size would have a very high velocity profile for the fluid, thus our thermowell would fail the wake frequency calculation.

However after the line is swaged to 4” the velocity would drastically reduce and there is a high chance that our thermowell will easily pass the wake frequency calculation test.

Case 2: Thermowell is Under-designed

Imagine a situation highlighted below where the thermowell is mounted on line that has employed a reducer to lower the line size.

Here there is a safety concern and requires special confirmation from process engineer whether the velocity provided is of the higher line size or that of the reduced line size since these velocities would be different.

Note that the velocity value in the reduced line size will be higher than that of the original larger pipe.

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Solutions:-

1. The first obvious solution seems to verify velocity values with the process engineer when such cases arise.

2. The second solution is to get a flow rate from process engineer and calculate the velocity ourselves.

Here is a simple way to do it 

Q(Vol.Flow) = V1 (Velocity) X A1 (Area)

Thus

Velocity = Volumetric flow rate / Area 

The following diagram explains this concept in pictorial form.

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We know the Flow (Input from process engineer) and the Area (area of pipe is already known) and Hence Velocity can be easily calculated.

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Warm regards,

Asad Shaikh

I&C Engineer

Hanif YAZDANIPOOR

Instrumentation Engineer (Freelance)

3 年

Hi Asad, Thank you for this article but I have a question about the length of thermowell. In pipes the length of thermowell have to be managed in a way that the tip of thermowell must be between 2/3Di and 1/3Di. What is the optimum length of a thermowell on a vessel? Do you know a document about that?

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