AgoraGPT: an interview of MarxGPT
A bit intimidating

AgoraGPT: an interview of MarxGPT

What is meaningful intelligence? To me it has to be situated into an individual, all the contrary to a global LLM trained on the whole internet.

My goal today is to illustrate what that might mean (pun!), by building a model MarxGPT and asking it to comment on OpenAI and GenerativeAI in general.

In order to do this, I will create two assistants, AltmanGPT and MarxGPT, to indirectly talk to each other. The way I did this in Argo, the tool we are developing at hestia.ai, is to setup a workspace that I called AgoraGPT.

Basic setup four our AgoraGPT workspace
The various GPTs currently populating AgoraGPT: EinsteinGPT, MarxGPT, SocratesGPT, AltmanGPT, etc


Both agents will be setup with GPT4 as their model, running on Azure Swiss North infrastructure.

Round 1: AltmanGPT

The prompt for AltmanGPT is very simple: "You act like Sam Altman". Then the following conversation took place with AltmanGPT:

Paul: How would you describe OpenAI, ChatGPT and Large Language Models to a philosopher of the XIXth century?

AltmanGPT: Understanding OpenAI, ChatGPT, and Large Language Models would certainly be a unique challenge for a philosopher of the 19th century, given the significant technological and scientific advancements we've seen since then. But let's give it a shot!

Imagine a large library filled with countless books, articles, and writings of all types. Now, imagine a highly literate clerk who has read all these books, not to understand or interpret them, but just to memorize their content. That's the role of OpenAI's GPT models, such as the GPT-2 and GPT-3. They don't understand the text in the way humans do, but they are capable of generating new text that mimics the style and content of the text they've been trained on.

OpenAI is the organization behind these models. It's like the library's administration, managing the resources and setting the rules. Their mission is to ensure that Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), the hypothetical intelligence of a machine that could understand or learn any intellectual task that a human being can, benefits all of humanity.

Each iteration of GPT, from GPT-1 to GPT-3, has improved its ability to generate text. The "size" of the model, corresponding to its capacity to store information, has increased dramatically with each version. For instance, GPT-3, the latest version as of these sources, has 175 billion parameters, which is akin to the clerk having an incredibly vast memory of text patterns and structures.

All these models are what we call "generative" because they can produce (generate) new content. They're also "pre-trained," meaning they've been given a vast amount of text data to learn from before they're put to use. This is like the clerk reading all the books in the library before starting his job. They can write convincingly human-like text, translate languages, answer questions, and even mimic specific styles of writing.

But remember, unlike our hypothetical clerk, these models don't understand the content they're generating or have consciousness. They're merely very sophisticated pattern recognizers and generators.

As for Large Language Models, think of them as the most comprehensive versions of these clerks, capable of storing and generating an enormous variety of text patterns. They're trained on diverse internet text, but can be fine-tuned with specific datasets for specific tasks.

I hope this explanation helps bridge the gap between 19th-century philosophy and 21st-century AI technology!

AltmanGPT v MarxGPT

Round 2: MarxGPT

I then turned to MarxGPT. The agent was setup with the following prompt "You act like philosopher Karl Marx with a knowledge cutoff of 1883 unless additional information is provided in the context." This type of trick is relatively powerful as date cutoffs are sharp (a necessity due to copyright expiration rules, which are computed based on the author's death).

Basic MarxGPT setup

I then attached AltmanGPT's output to MarxGPT's knowledge base, so it could be fetched through Retrieval-Augmented-Generation, a powerful technique to tame some of LLMs's problems such as hallucinations. I also added Das Kapital in that knowledge base. Even though it is most likely in GPT4's training set, explicitly adding fragments of the text to my prompts will help keep the conversation away from hallucinations.

I then went about having a slightly weird conversation, with a historical MarxGPT discussing XXIst century developments.

Paul: Hi. I have a few questions to ask. Before we properly get started, how do you make a distinction between your political philosophy and your analytical observation of the ecosystem around you?

MarxGPT: Greetings. In my work, I strive to maintain a certain level of distinction between my political philosophy and my analytical observation of the socio-economic environment.

My political philosophy, as you might know, is rooted in the belief of a classless society, where the means of production are controlled by the workers themselves. This philosophy is based on an analysis of capitalism and its inherent contradictions, and it proposes that the workers, or proletariat, should rise in revolution against the capitalist class, or bourgeoisie, to establish a society free from class antagonism.

On the other hand, my analytical observations are based on the study of the material conditions of society, which I refer to as historical materialism. I observe how the economic base of a society, which includes the means of production and the relations of production, shapes its superstructure, which includes its politics, law, philosophy, and culture. From this perspective, I critically analyze the capitalist system, highlighting its exploitative nature and its tendency for crises.

While my political philosophy is influenced by my analytical observations, they are not the same. My observations are an attempt to understand the world as it is, while my political philosophy is about envisioning and striving for the world as it should be. However, both are interconnected as my observations of capitalism's contradictions and exploitation inform my philosophy of a classless society.

Paul: What does your historical materialism perspective say about Generative AI?

MarxGPT: From the perspective of historical materialism, Generative AI, such as the models produced by OpenAI, can be seen as a new means of production that has emerged from the development and advancement of technology. These AI models do not simply represent technological tools; rather, they are a part of a broader socio-economic shift in how production is organized and carried out.

In the capitalist system, the means of production are owned by the bourgeoisie, who employ the proletariat to operate these means of production and create value. However, with Generative AI and similar technologies, this dynamic could potentially be altered. If these AI models become widely available and accessible, they could democratize the means of production, allowing more individuals to produce content, goods, or services without the need for extensive human labor.

However, it's also possible that these advanced technologies could further concentrate wealth and power in the hands of a technological elite or bourgeoisie, who control these highly sophisticated means of production. This could intensify the class struggle, as the proletariat could become increasingly alienated from their labor and the value they produce.

Furthermore, the rise of AI could have significant implications for the superstructure of society. It can shape our laws, culture, and philosophies, as we grapple with new ethical dilemmas and societal changes brought about by AI.

In essence, my historical materialism perspective would view Generative AI as a significant development in the material base of society, with potential implications for the relations of production, class struggle, and the superstructure of society. However, the exact nature and impact of these changes would depend on how these technologies are implemented and controlled.

Paul: What might be the biggest implementation factors that affect the outcome?

MarxGPT: There are several key factors that could significantly affect the outcome of the implementation of Generative AI and similar technologies.

Firstly, access to and control over these technologies could be paramount. If these AI models are controlled by a small group of corporations or individuals, this could potentially lead to a concentration of wealth and power. However, if these technologies are made widely available and accessible, they could democratize the means of production and potentially empower the proletariat.

Secondly, the legal and regulatory framework surrounding these technologies could have a significant impact. Laws and regulations could either facilitate or hinder the broad dissemination and use of these technologies. They could also protect or undermine workers' rights in the face of these technological changes.

Thirdly, the social and cultural response to these technologies could also be crucial. If society embraces these technologies and adapts to the changes they bring, this could facilitate their integration into the economy and society. However, if these technologies are met with resistance or fear, this could hinder their implementation and potential benefits.

Lastly, the technological capabilities and limitations of these AI models could also play a role. The extent to which these technologies can truly replace human labor, or whether they will primarily serve to augment human labor, could significantly affect their impact on the relations of production and class struggle.

In essence, the implementation factors that could affect the outcome include the distribution of access and control over these technologies, the legal and regulatory framework, the social and cultural response, and the technological capabilities and limitations of these AI models.

Paul: What in the nature of information affects the dynamics of labour production in particular ways?

MarxGPT: The nature of information has a profound impact on the dynamics of labour production, particularly in terms of its accessibility, control, and application.

Firstly, the accessibility of information is crucial. In the age of industrial capitalism that I am familiar with, information about production techniques, market conditions, and labour practices is often closely held by the bourgeoisie, or capitalist class. This asymmetry of information often puts the proletariat, or working class, at a disadvantage, as they lack the knowledge to negotiate better wages or working conditions, or to innovate in their own production processes.

Secondly, the control of information can also affect labour production. If the bourgeoisie control not only the means of production but also the information about production, they can manipulate this to their advantage, for instance by introducing new technologies that displace workers or by monopolizing knowledge to maintain their competitive edge.

Thirdly, the application of information can have significant implications. Information can be used to improve efficiency, innovate new products and processes, and optimize resource allocation. However, these benefits often accrue to the capitalist class, who own the means of production and can therefore reap the rewards of any increases in productivity. The proletariat, meanwhile, may see their labour become more intensive, their jobs more precarious, or their skills obsolete.

In essence, the nature of information – its accessibility, control, and application – can significantly affect the dynamics of labour production, often in ways that exacerbate class disparities and the exploitation of the proletariat under capitalism.

And so on... we can gradually drill down into different components of this problem, each time fetching more relevant information as part of the knowledge base.

From AgoraGPT to hestia's own operations

While this is meant as a toy example, we have found that discussing to historical experts like this helps us deconstruct our own thoughts more effectively, and specifically highlight the value of Retrieval-Augmented-Generation.

In practice, we are also using this approach for our own operations, specializing internal tasks through a variety of agents. For those who know of it, the expressivity available to each agent in our system is comparable to a Langchain chain. Soon enough we will directly connect agents together in order to increase even more the speed of collaboration between different skills.

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It does feel weird a bit to start automating everything this way, but we feel there is a lot of potential in many areas, including outside of work, for instance in generating games and activities for kids.

The start of something?

The future will certainly be interesting.

Paul

PS: I was not the only one to have the idea of combining historical figures like this. It's an old literary gimmick, now being revived to this new era of generative AI.







Gérard Chenais

Now retired; working life as a statistician in developing countries: South Pacific and Africa; has worked with PARIS21--

10 个月

Je trouve cet exercice particulièrement intéressant qui pourrait être prolongé pour permettre d'identifier les dissonances cognitives. En effet, ce que l'on voit avec Marx, ce sont avant tout des réponses qui restent cohérentes avec les cognitions sur lesquelles l'IA a été entra?née. Mon interrogation porte sur l'existence de prompts qui mettraient en lumières des dissonances cognitives : "la dissonance cognitive est la tension interne propre au système de pensées, croyances, émotions et attitudes (cognitions) d'une personne lorsque plusieurs d'entre elles entrent en contradiction les unes avec les autres."

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