The $842,000 Problem Of Men At Work

The $842,000 Problem Of Men At Work

There’s an article in Harvard Business Review using data on men and personality traits since the 1920s to figure out this eternal question: “What determines how you earn more?” Well, here’s the article link, in case you want to see all the methodology and background. Cool. What I’m going to do is point you to two parts then tie them together.

Part A:

Consider two men in the Terman study, who are equal on all background characteristics and all traits, except for extraversion. The man who is average on this trait will earn $600,000 more over a lifetime than his more introverted peer (whose extraversion is, say, in the bottom 20% of the distribution). This effect size corresponds to about 15% of lifetime earnings.

OK. Remember that on extroversion.

Now Part B:

I also found that more agreeable men, who tend to be friendly and helpful to others, have significantly lower earnings than less agreeable men. The man who is very agreeable (in the top 20%) will earn about $270,000 less over a lifetime than the average man.

OK. Got both? Let’s talk.

This is not a good intersection right here

So basically, a back-slapping sales-type guy (a high extrovert) who isn’t agreeable or helpful to other people (Part B) can make about $870,000 more than someone more introverted and helpful.

That’s a pretty nice house or some private schools right there, no?

So basically, at the broadest level, men have no real incentive to:

  • Be more thoughtful (introversion)
  • Read emotions (same)
  • Help others
  • Be agreeable

Who tends to run most companies?

Men.

Who tends to occupy most of the “decision-making slots?”

Men.

What ultimately shapes “a culture” of a place?

The behaviors of the top people — and the behaviors they tolerate.

Do you see where this is becoming a problem?

But the goal is money, right?

Sure, sure. The goal is usually money. But the problem is, as time has gone on, we’re spending more and more time at work or on tasks related to work. A lot of people are probably putting up 12 hours/day at work. When you’re spending that much time associated with work, you need some degree of:

  • Human connection
  • Generosity
  • Friendship
  • Collaboration
  • People being agreeable

But it seems these things are almost directly in opposition to men getting the scratch.

So does the scratch matter, or does the overall environment matter?

The scratch usually matters more. Everyone’s got an individual hierarchy of needs in an achievement-driven culture, and that’s usually going to come before the broader needs of a place where you might only work for 3.6 years.

Isolation at work

Not everyone is like this. Remember on Mad Men when someone called Draper “a bully in a suit?” Those are the guys — usually because they’re tied to sales — who tend to rise up at companies. But not all of us are like that, nor can we all deal with it well.

What happens then?

  1. We leave said company.
  2. We increasingly feel isolated by work.

See, neither of these is good for the company. They either lose knowledge or lose productivity. (No one is productive when they feel isolated and sad.) But then the company doesn’t care, because those Don Drapers are still bringing in the revenue.

Tough little circle.

Can we fix this?

Are you asking me if we can fix masculinity or traditionally male attitudes towards work?

No, not right now.

The essence of the problem is how men process emotion and what work is to them.

I call that the “Boys Don’t Cry” problem, as a sidebar.

But look, if you can make about $900K more over a career by being a back-slapping dick who doesn’t help others, most guys are gonna take that and run with it. That’s just reality.

This is why terms like “our collaborative culture of innovation…” are such complete bullshit.

That’s not what gets you up there. It’s not the path to individual minting.

And anything about the demise of culture, or the lack of one, starts right there.

Michael Gray

Banking, Payments & Fintech Talent Advisor | BaaS | Embedded Finance | Blockchain | Digital Assets | Crypto | DeFi | Exec Search | Recruitment | Finrec.io | 20K+ Followers

5 个月

I disagree

David R.R. Webber

Consultant specializing in Election Integrity and Cloud AI frameworks and Cryptology technologies. Maryland coordinator for implementing the FAIRtax.

5 个月

OK that was 1920s. Think about that time. We are 100 years from that and we have social media, Gen X, womens rights, DEI, and more. Collaboration and facilitation are vital skills. Being an unresponsive male chauvanist will have you last about 1 week in modern work. HR will can you quicker than you can say pink slips.

James A.

Engineering Recruiter | Jobseeker Advocate ???? Adviser | Robotics ?? Nerd | Dog Rescue ?? Foster | National Paper Airplane Distance Champion 3x ???

5 个月

I have learned that it’s not so much about being a “nice guy” its more about winning. If you don’t want to win, it’s hard to compete against someone who does. It doesn’t matter if they are nice or mean, all that matters is the skill and how it’s leveraged. And we can’t discount luck, it plays a huge role that is hard to qualify.

Jim L.

It's just me

5 个月

I am taking a class (last one) on diversity and equity in eduction. We're actually going over some of this now, meaning extraversion and agreeableness. You really can't talk about this without recognizing what the dominant culture is(white, Western European in roots) and how that sets the social rules, desired and effective social capital and therefore who will be successful. Bootstrappers and others who live in the dominant class usually don't see it. It's the same old saw, if I can do it, why can't they? The interesting thing is that there are other cultures where introversion is more the norm. In western cultures, extroversion is seen as some kind of intelligence that should be rewarded and here we are. It's not only masculinity either. The rules, rewards and punishments affect women as well and in different ways. Nice guys may finish last, but that's not the goal. Be a good person. Unfortunately, western society doesn't reward good people either. You can look among the leaders and famous and you'll find 100-300lb bags of squirrel poop. Nutty as hell and often not good folks. The thing is, nothing changes without demand, without work. We outnumber the decision makers in this. That's the only card we have.

Brian McKenzie

Digital Nomad - Remote Contractor

5 个月

Never be the 'Nice Guy' - it is hardly ever rewarded. It doesn't pay out, It doesn't pay off. Not in the corporate realm and definitely not in relationships.

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